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To get the dog to bite me so it will be pts?

186 replies

midnightlurker · 28/11/2016 14:51

Dog coming into my field and attacking my horses. One minor injury, several incidents of damage to the rugs (like little coats) they wear. Now a chunk out of one hind leg requiring vet attention. This dog has tasted blood, it will not stop here. We have beefed up the fencing as much as we can - rented land...

When I phoned the Police they were bloody useless. If we see it in action they will come but they will not take the dog as it is not a human it is attacking. And I can't legally hit/hurt it to get it off my horse.... So aibu to lie in wait for it then pull it off my horse so it gets me? Then it is a dangerous dog and has attacked a human, so the Police have to act.

Cannot see any other way to protect my horses :(.

And if the owner is reading this - STOP it! Put it on a lead!!!! It is not funny or clever to injure livestock.

OP posts:
steppemum · 29/11/2016 11:38

there is a footpath that runs through a horses field near us. It has parge clear signs at both ends, put up by the horse owners about keeping your dog under control, and not letting it run around the horses feet etc.

Would that be possible?

steppemum · 29/11/2016 11:43

parge??

large, obviously

user1471451684 · 29/11/2016 11:46

I would put a notice on the fence where the owner walks past saying that any dog seen atttacking the livestock will be shot, then shoot it

user1471451684 · 29/11/2016 11:49

Assuming that you are in the U.K. In the US I can also shoot a dog attacking my livestock, however dogs are legally family members and you can shoot someone to defend your dog

TheWitTank · 29/11/2016 11:53

Electric fencing won't deter many dogs on a mission -as mentioned earlier, both mine can easily clear a gate from a standstill and scrabble 8ft walls without a problem. Horse electric fencing is usually only single or double strand easily negotiable by small animals. Some will even just take the shock and not care -my friends cob will just plough through. I think identifying the dog is the right way to go op -get hold of it if you can safely and phone the dog warden to collect it as a stray. The owner can pay a nice kennelling fee to get it back.

user1478546853 · 29/11/2016 17:25

Wow! I understand the horse is getting hurt and that's terrible but people really suggesting that I don't get shot or poisoned? That's just crazy, all animals are important as each other try talking to the owners first before you try that disgusting act!!

user1478546853 · 29/11/2016 17:25

*the dog gets

deesco · 29/11/2016 17:28

Tho it is horrible, killing the dog - thru shooting or veterinary means - is just cruel and extreme! It is the owners fault for letting the dog run wild - the dog is just being an animal!!

Halloweensnake · 29/11/2016 17:29

You must find the owners ,and tell them..what a nightmare.your poor horse

Halloweensnake · 29/11/2016 17:31

I thought the law says any dog attacking livestock can be shot....am I wrong?im always so careful with mine,wouldn't let him of the lead if horses were near

JigglyTuff · 29/11/2016 17:31

If the dog's owners gave a shit, the dog would have bothered the horses once and never again. So either they don't know where the dog is or they have watched it attacking the horses and don't care. Either way, I suspect that midnight having a polite word isn't going to have much impact.

RandomMess · 29/11/2016 17:34

The owners are the ones that night to bitten and made terrified Angry

How utterly selfish and irresponsible of them.

smilingmind · 29/11/2016 17:42

Could you borrow a humane dog trap and put it somewhere in the field where it won't be a risk to the horses ?

PossumInAPearTree · 29/11/2016 17:50

We had problems in our horse field with a public footpath through the middle of it. Dogs running all over the field, shitting everywhere. Thankfully never had a horse attacked, chased a bit maybe but never bitten.

Ended up turning the footpath into a 3ft wide corridor with horrendous high metal security palisade fencing. Looks like Alcatraz and cost a fortune but very effective. Even a cat can't get through.

Saj1988 · 29/11/2016 18:08

This is outrageous and you are receiving no support from the authorities. Certainly a dog warden should be informed. The RSPCA may have some advice too.Yes farmers are able to use a rifle to protect their livestock from out of control dogs but I expect just an airgun pellet in its arse would be enough to put it off.

Daydream007 · 29/11/2016 18:09

It could kill you or seriously disfigure you. It needs to be put to sleep as it's dangerous. You need to find out who owns it or contact the RSPCA for advice quick before it hurts more horses!

BoffinMum · 29/11/2016 18:17

TBH I would fucking shoot it pronto but I realise there may be townies on here that don't understand that.

nellieellie · 29/11/2016 18:18

Tell the police they have to act under The Dangerous dogs Act. This act applies f a dog attacks an animal belonging to someone else. Print this off and take it to the police station. Ask them for copy of their complaints procedure if they still refuse to act. www.gov.uk/control-dog-public/overview

JSSB · 29/11/2016 18:20

Unfortunately we had a similar experience with a dog that killed my mother's cat. It found its way into her garden and attacked it - it was elderly and didn't stand a chance. My mum saw it all. When she called the police they said there was nothing they could do. What made it worse was the neighbours didn't even apologise.

Redhound · 29/11/2016 18:21

Notta as I undertstand it, grazing horses is OK and comes under agricultural use for planning; it's when you start stabling them and feeding them hard feed the use changes. In any case if I were the owner I would get on to the police again and also get a friendly farmer on side to shoot the dog if it returns. The other options are not going to be easy and the risk is the horse will be seriously injured and need putting to sleep next time. The OPs priority is to protect her animals. Its a shame my spotty mare isn't there to help, she loves trampling dogs!

gemma19846 · 29/11/2016 18:28

Have you spoke to the owner? Cant you keep your horses in until the issue is sorted out?

Mammyashy1 · 29/11/2016 19:38

What the hell no this is not ok! First of all got knows what harm you could do to yourself and what you could contract from the dog! Second of all you haven't even ran out of options call the dog warden what about calling the local cat and dog shelter for advice or even the rspca? Put signs up asking the owner to come forward? Quite frankly getting yourself injured on purpose to be able to kill a animal is stupid and I do hope this post gets seen by someone who can stop you

Dodadodaday · 29/11/2016 19:48

Electrified poultry netting would be ideal in this case. Battery operated and punches s whallop, but relatively (vs cost of a rug!) inexpensive. Once the dog has been zapped a few times it will usually stop touching the fence at all, unless it's really a crazy mofo

Bunnyfuller · 29/11/2016 19:54

Bizarrely, the police do not have a big box of police officers to spare one to sit and a field and try to catch a dog who may be dangerous, and may or may not appear. The box of dog trained officers is even smaller. Weirdly, the police cannot prosecute anyone without EVIDENCE of lawbreaking. I know, ridiculous right? Ongoing year on year cuts to policing of 20% per year mean I'm afraid there's very little that can be done. I would suggest trying to identify who may own the dog (have you witnessed the attacks?) and initially approach them. If it's a stray, report it to the RSPCA. Maybe try the council (some still direct funding for dog wardens, some do not). The police aren't 'lazy'. They're stripped of any ability to look into these sort of things, because without doubt, the few that are on (usually extended beyond their shift) duty at any one time are out dealing with immediate threat to human life/burglary in process (the latter is a luxury to get to). What's going on with your horses is horrendous but I think there's things to be done to perhaps aid any criminal investigation. Have you considered CCTV? Or can you stable the horses overnight?

Bunnyfuller · 29/11/2016 19:56

Doda gave a brilliant suggestion

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