DD having to do toilet checks in men's toilets

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So, just chatting to my DD (17) about her work.
She works in TGI Friday's and generally moans about the stress of it all and I normally smile and nod and offer her sympathy as required and tell her to stick it out and payday always makes it all seem worth it yada yada.
Then she tells me that she has to do toilet checks and quite often men come and just pee while she's in there or go for poo and she has to wait til there done to fill up the toilet roll.
I'm really unhappy about this and feel this is putting her in a really vulnerable position.
Would I be U to phone and voice concerns objet manager tomorrow morning ?
I've said to DD that I'm going to phone and she's happy for me to as says she feels really uncomfortable doing the checks on the men's toilets.

Rebootyourengine I think both but particularly her age.

Wouldhave, she knocks and goes in when toilets are empty, a man comes in and she says "if you wait, ill just be a minute finishing my checks" she says man never waits and says he'll only be a minute and starts to pee so she goes into to cubicle and comes out when he's finished

If you are concerned buy her a loud personal alarm, but dont ring her boss!

It's part of HER job, she is employed there not you.
Please tell me you are kidding?

Men have to clean women's toilets/ do checks during the night at lots of venues.
There is usually a sign saying they are checked regularly by men.

We have mainly female cleaners at work, I'm struggling to recall if any are male but if they need to clean the toilets, replace loo roll etc then they check to make sure there's nobody in there before putting a do not enter sign on the main door for a minute. Can't your daughter do that? She shouldn't have to wait whilst people are doing their business.

Tell her not to say anything to the manager but to wedge the door shut with folded paper towels so nobody can get in.

It will only be a minute before she's out again. If she says something and the manager doesn't agree with her shutting access off then it will turn into something bigger.

Wedging it shut for a moment will stop her having to see men pissing which is GROSS!

My DH was horrified when I told him this...he'd never wee in front of a 17 year old female member of staff he said!

So presumably she's happy with the cubicle solution? I must say I'd wait outside, but it's up to her.

The problem with putting a sign up to keep people out is that customers are going to be unhappy if they need to go, they've made their way there and then find they can't get in, particularly if they're fairly desperate.

OnionKnight that would be fine, it's not the checks that bother her, intact she quite likes a break from the maleness of serving and hosting. It's he men coming in and peeing while she's in there that make her feel uncomfortable. They don't have "do not enter, cleaning in progress" signs and when she's brought it up with her manager before nothing has been done.

She should come out of the the toilets if someone carries on peeing, not go in the cubicle.

I used to wedge a wet floor cone (a big one) between the door and the wall so that it would keep the door open a bit and be a warning to people that someone is in there. If they wanted to come in and use the toilet I'd step outside and wait but most of the time they'd see the cone or me and leave it. It's just part of the job surely?

In that case she needs to bring it up with management again, not you.

I think if she goes into cubicle she doesn't have to walk right past them and that makes her feel uncomfortable.

There should be a 'cleaning in progress' sign kicking about. Nab that and stick it right outside the doors. If any bloke tries to come in then she needs to be polite but firm and tell them that the loos are being checked and they will need to wait for a few minutes until she is finished.

It's reasonable to ask her to do the checks as part of her job, but it is not reasonable to expect her to carry on whilst men are actually using the facilities.

I also think the men are being pretty gross to start peeing infront of a young girl. My DH would run a mile if a woman was in the men's toilets.

Yeah don't call the employer - she needs to sort it herself and its great that she is!

I think asking the manager to implement the door sign is a good idea to close the toilets for the few moments she is in there.

Where I work I loudly knock, open the door a crack and yell ''Female employee coming in, is anyone in there?'' and wait for a reply. If someone came in while I was cleaning I'd just wait outside until they came out.

She's better off walking past them and out of the room, than hiding in a cubicle!

I'm sure your right Bakeoffbiscuits, this is where I feel her vulnerability is in that she is only 17, still at school and not fully mature yet.
Thanks for replies, helped to put it into perspective for both of us, have showed her the replies and both agree I shouldn't phone

But why doesn't she leave and wait outside while they pee? Why does she go into a cubicle?

Ok, you answered while I was typing!

In every bar i ever worked in as a young adult i had to do this, its pretty common. If your daughter doesnt want to do it then she is the one who should voice that. I really dont think you should ring on her behalf i cant see that going down well at all, quite the opposite she may well be made fun of and taken less seriously as a result.
You need to tell her to be strong and refuse to do it if thats how she feels.

Is she cleaning the toilets?
If only replacing toilet rolls she can always just leave one on the cistern and get out again quick. Or not put one in if someone comes in.
I would just do a crummy job of it.

But as someone who has done this, you do get male customers (if the doors are visible to customers) who will go in because they saw a young girl go in there. They are the same breed who like to yell things from cars to freak you out.

Some workers may not be uncomfortable doing loo checks, but if your dd is they should try and help her out with a door stop or a sign.

When I worked as a cleaner I did both sets of toilets. It really annoyed me when men would piss in the urinal in front of me when I was doing sinks or floors. My boss told me to walk out as soon as they came in so I did.

MissMargie, no not physically cleaning the loo, just tidying up, checking loo roll and soap, good advice, have already said to her make sure it's all done at the start when it's quiet and then just make sure it's good enough.

When I was 17 I worked in an office where my boss once asked me to clean the male toilets (can't think why we had cleaners) but then again he did "grope" me sometimes and for some reason I think he liked seeing me uncomfortable. But I did it.

In this case I'd get her to wait outside or get a sign saying she's cleaning. But don't get involved and if it's part of her job it's part of her job but obviously her managers need to be more sensitive/assertive about how she handles it. What do other females doing this part of the job do?