To think people should be aware of the paedophiles who troll on here

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Stating the obvious:

This site is very popular. Anyone could could be reading and posting on here.

Threads which seem to encourage people to talk about sexual behaviour in preteens, probably aren't from a concerned parent and for many, many reasons, it's not wise to go into great details about your own exploits and make out that sexual activity in under 16's is no big deal.

Not a TAAT, as there's been loads of threads like this, but they seem to be increasing in number and frequency.

FFS. Why are some men so fucking weird. Men?

Of course there are paedophiles reading MN. I have no doubt they come here specifically to find their particular 'like'

It's disgusting and a real shame that posters are so happy to overshare their DCs on here, or any online anonymous forum.

Some of the replies here show exactly why we DO need to talk about this.

I didn't see the thread you're talking about but it IS normal for children to masturbate.

The post was deleted not long ago. I don't know whether you can share the details on another thread as it will be taat but it was quite horrendous.

Well of course it is. What's less normal is the 'mum' saying she's bought a vibrator for her PRETEEN daughter to use!

But what a paedophile do with these threads?
Look to find enough information about the poster and see if they can then in touch?
Jerking off reading those stories?

YANBU at all. Good on you for starting this. Although you'll prob get deleted.

Totally agree and please, dear God, STOP posting about children masturbating, or the fact you did when you were 3. We don't care OK?

It could be a man
It could be a woman

I cant stand it when people start giving examples and giving the poster exactly what they came on here for.

Wait, so people are supposed to not discuss something at all for fear a loitering paedophile might be aroused?

What dangerous hysterical nonsense. A paedophile might well be aroused by all manner of perfectly innocent and earnest discussions about children, are people supposed to implement some kind of blanket ban on the provision of information about children beyond a certain level of detail?

A parent unaware that children masturbate might be incredibly concerned and afraid to discuss it with people they know... but they're not allowed to seek reassurance "because paedophiles"? FFS.

I'm stunned that posters think this isn't an issue

Nobody is saying that.
The pedophile trolls using sites like this aren't loitering, they are actively trying to solicit detailed anecdotes and answers. Theres a big difference between their posts and genuine ones.

Nah there's something about the way some threads are worded or angled that raises eyebrows.

That one earlier was a classic example.

clutches pearls

Of course it's an issue, but not one that is solved by shutting down legitimate areas of discussion for fear that a paedophile might be aroused.

I'm afraid to say that in all likelihood somebody who is aroused by children will be aroused by far more "innocent" discussions and details than masturbation - but what is one supposed to do about that?

This is not the way to address the problem. Of COURSE paedophilia is a problem, but it is neither caused nor exacerbated by the availability of the knowledge that children masturbate. It hardly takes an intellectual sophisticate to work that out.

Jelly and then what do you think they do with these answers? I mean Ok they have detailed answers on how some posters have been masturnating as a young teenagers.
Or other seedy details (such as the lines you find in the sex topic).
And then?

Tbh I dont care if a couple of paedo get off reading some posts if that means that other people get some good advice, some discover something is worng etc...
I would have more issues if they were then managing to find out more about one poster and track them down. But that is just a normal internet safety issue isnt it? Thats why you need to be very careful on details you are posting, name change regularly, avoid FB etc etc

This is why people are driven to troll hunt on occasion because the threads just don't get dealt with quickly enough. I've really felt quite stressed on occasion watching posters share story after personal story with someone whose obviously getting some weird thrill from it. I know the onus is on posters not to share but people do use this site to interact and communicate with their peers when perhaps they might not have much opportunity to do so in RL. It's easy to get carried away especially if you've not been on here all that long and you're really enjoying the vibe of the site.

Discussing your masturbation habits NOWDAYS is different to what you were doing 40 years ago though (or more or less depending on your age).
Just as discussing you sexual life.

But then if you go a forum such as the one on LoveHoney, you will find plenty of people happy to share their sexual experience in order to help other people in the same way that parents do on here usually about parenting, incl parenting their teens and what to do about their teen sexual life

Bottom line is that is that the first thing you need to be VERY careful about is to protect your privacy. And few peole seem to be that careful about that.

The availability of knowledge or knowing what children do or not do isn't the issue.

It's being savvy enough to see when a thread is questionable and not to respond with an unnecessary amount of detail.

We've been having these discussions for ages and as usual I'll get called a prude or whatever but I just think it's perfectly easy to have a discussion without anyone saying anything that could be fodder for weirdos.

Well a very fine Friday evening to you all my lovely MNers

Right then.
In terms of what the OP here is saying, we do understand that this is an thread inspired by a thread rather than a TAAT per se.
BUT this is a PUBLIC internet forum. ANYTHING that you post on MN can be seen by anyone ( and we know from our stats that there a fair amount of non posting lurkers out there) - there could be perverts getting their kicks about I dunno, wallpaper on the property threads (and don''t even get me started about the 'sporners!)
But being as this is a site for adults (rather than an adult site) we decided to introduce a sex topic whereupon people can discuss this sort of thing in a grown up sort of way.

Many thanks again to those of you who reported the vibrator thread
We would like to confirm that it was deleted but that we have no reason to suspect that the OP was ANYTHING less than genuine
May we please play the broken record card and ask again that if there's anything that concerns you or looks like (and i quote) "wank fodder" that you report it and ignore - one thing we know that perverts and trolls like is reaction and attention.
Many thanks as ever
Peace and love
MNHQ

YANBU OP. As a PP said, it does no harm to remind people that this is an open forum on the internet, not a chat with like minded mums.

YANBU and those type of threads seem to be increasing lately. So much so, that I wondered if MN was being targeted or if 'posters' were being directed here for some reason.
It's blatantly obvious which threads are soliciting for an inappropriate amount of information but tbh some of the posters responding (on the suspicious threads and on here) seem to be deliberately oversharing. Take this thread - you would think it would be perfectly reasonable to remind posters that there are trolls on here and yet there are posters arguing against the wisdom of your OP and trying to make it openly a TAAT.