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To refuse to write legal letters for DH as he's too tight to pay a solicitor?

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 09:26

Dh has been having letters from his ex-wife’s solicitor relating to the payments he’s making her. He has expected me to respond to these letters. I have no legal training and they advised him to get his own legal advice. He then consulted a parent of DS friend who is a solicitor. He agreed to help draft a response, and DH gave me to understand said parent had agreed to help him for free – I was sceptical as I wondered what he (the parent ) was getting form it, but accepted what DH said on face value. I duly wrote a letter based on scribbled notes DH received from this solicitor parent.

When I bumped into said parent I thanked him for helping and he looked surprised and said – oh no, I’m not taking on free advice & assistance, I just said I will have a look at the letter (and any reply DH gets) and advise him if he has a case.

Massive shock for me as I realise DH is up to his old tricks of (a) conning me and (b) expecting something for nothing – I.e. Refusing to pay for proper legal advice. I talked to DH and said I don not want to be responsible for writing his letters.

He promised me he would get an appt with a solicitor and hand the whole thing over to them to take the stress and worry away from me. He duly told me he had an appt. However….. This turned out to be a free family law surgery organised by his union, and he has now come back to me saying that I need to write a letter for him based on what they told him at this free clinic. He claimed they said it would cost £500 if they wrote the letter.

I was so angry. I re-iterated he needs to get his own legal advice and I can’t be writing letters for him. He has money he could use for this, why not use it, or at least give me something for writing the letters (this will be the 3rd I have written for him based on cheap scribbled notes). He then had the cheek to tell me that I was going to New York in January – as if it was some kind of treat he had paid for – when in fact I am funding myself from my savings.

I feel so frustrated he is trying to do the whole thing 'on the cheap', using me and my writing skills - although I know nothing about the subject matter or his legal rights and I have repeatedly told him I don’t want to do it.

I am at a loss as to how to proceed. He is completely inarticulate and unable to convey information on his own in written form.

If I leave him to muddle his own way through it will be a car crash, and potentially impact our family finances if his ex wife gets more than she might if he got proper advice. On the other hand I really don’t want to get involved as writing these letters causes he huge stress and anxiety.

Sorry for long post.

WWYD?

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TheFuckitBuckit · 25/11/2016 13:07

oh that doesn't sound good, it does also sound like your dh knows this too and is taking advantage of you. That's no way to live.

PacificDogwod · 25/11/2016 13:07

It is interesting that you are able to stand up to his way of doing things when you see your child's safety threatened.
You need to find that inner steel for yourself.
It sounds to me that you (like so many women) are conditioned to put your own needs last and see them yourself as least important.

Would it help to remind yourself that your son's best interests are best served if your DH has qualified legal advice? Stand up to him in your son's interest.

Ok, then, what about Pretty Woman?

CozumelFox · 25/11/2016 13:10

Momentumista.

Well. OK. If that's your situation you still have a way out. Gilded cage and all that. Better a low-key life without piles of cash but with freedom, than stuck in a gilded cage with a tightfisted, aggressive (keeps nagging you, making life unpleasant) nob who gets plumbers to do his electrics and will probably be submitting legal papers scrawled in biro on the back of a takeaway menu.

It just sounds so sad :( I know living on the breadline isn't much fun either, but - would you really be that poorly off without him?

(I appreciate getting maintenance payments from him sounds like it'd be a chore!)

ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 13:10

OP re Pretty Woman...go on.....

Chewbecca · 25/11/2016 13:12

It is usual for couples to help each other out using skills that one is better than the other at.

But clearly your marriage is not usual. Is the convenience really better than being on your own? You sound very unhappy and sound like you thoroughly dislike your husband. If you left, would you return to whatever situation you were escaping or might you be able to get to a better place?

Flowers
CozumelFox · 25/11/2016 13:13

Wasn't a massively complicated plot, guys, she doesn't have to spell it out surely...

ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 13:14

CozumelFox I don't understand why anyone would do this. I'm obviously hugely naive and stupid...should have trusted my gut instinct shouldn't I

LauraMipsum · 25/11/2016 13:16

He sounds like an arse.

I'm a lawyer and I do quite a bit of free legal work for friends and charities. In my relationship I would do legal work for my partner in a heartbeat (in fact I have written legal letters where needed for DP). I also get quite a lot of cheeky fuckers asking for free legal work when I barely know them and their cases are (inevitably) massively complicated. Including one of the women from NCT who completely blanked me after the babies were born until she needed some advice and was grumpy that I wouldn't help (it was outside my area of expertise).

Family law is a complicated area and he is a fool if he can afford a qualified representative and chooses not to do so. Also it is a bit weird getting you involved in litigation concerning his ex-wife.

If the convenience was to do with immigration, that's my speciality area, and I would not regard you as a cheeky fucker if you wanted to drop a PM.

Smidge001 · 25/11/2016 13:18

If you're worried the lack of advice may impact on your joint finances, why don't you pay for the solicitor?

You clearly have joint finances if you're saying the result of this may impact you, so surely it's in your own interest to pay for the advice?

CozumelFox · 25/11/2016 13:22

Why the hell should she pay for his problems? His ex-wife, his refusal to pay, HIS issue. That sounds like precisely what he wants, if he's throwing her trip back at her.

If he's trying to cut his payments to an ex - and does that mean she has children? Is he trying to avoid paying for children? - why should the OP cough up? It's none of her business.

charlestonchaplin · 25/11/2016 13:29

Duh! It's not just a question of the OP being better with words than her husband. It's a legal matter. She is not legally qualified and she doesn't feel she can deal with the matter adequately as a lay person. She feels that as a result she may worsen the outcome, which would probably affect her financially too since they are married. It should be enough to say she is just uncomfortable with the request, not to mention the manipulation, but it clearly wouldn't be enough for some who, despite the numerous reasons set out, JUST DON'T GET IT.

TheFuckitBuckit · 25/11/2016 13:30

showme what is it you are not understanding?

Op did what she had to do, she was offered a way out and she took it. If I were in the ops shoes I would have done the same.

Op is having a tough time right now dealing with her husbands behaviour and just needs a bit of support, surely you can manage that whether you agree with it or not?

TimetohittheroadJack · 25/11/2016 13:33

Alternatively, you could knock up a letter so shit he stops asking you...

For Example

Dear ExW solicitor,

I don't think the stuff you asked for is fair. Its totally not on, I'm not giving to any more money/access/whatever .. and so on.

Litter the letter with spelling mistakes, poor grammar and leap to conclusions.

Strategic incompetence. Just the same as every man who can't figure out the washing machine.

ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 13:39

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EnormousTiger · 25/11/2016 13:43

I don't even date men if they don't write well and are not articulate. He must be very good in bed in your case to make up for those deficiencies!

Also even if a solicitor gives advice for nothing they could be sued for £20m so it is not something they should rush to do if they have any sense.

I think your husband should sort this out himself. Usually it is best to compromise even if you lose some money that way as it saves money on legal fees. I've not read all 5 pages but do you know each side's position on the financial issues?

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 13:45

Showme, I'm sorry if you don't believe me. I promise you this is not a twist in the tale, it is the truth and is the reality of my life. I would not jest about something this serious. I appreciate your (and all posters') advice. If you don't believe me then it simply underlines how farcical my life is and perhaps why I feel unable to confide in anyone in RL. I would never abuse the trust and help of MNers and post false information.

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 13:49

Enormous, not especially good in bed no. Just stability and a 'normal' life. A home, a family.

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 13:51

Laura - thank you very much for that kind offer, it's not to do with immigration though Flowers

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 13:52

Momentumista Fair enough. I won't comment on this again because I've given all the advice I can and this latest revelation doesn't change any of that.

I wish you the best of luck either way Smile

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 13:54

Show - thank you very much, I appreciate your help.

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 15:17

Thanks to whoever reported me. I am, I can assure you 100% genuine.
Jeez no wonder I find it nigh on impossible to ask for help, even on the fucking internet.

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CockacidalManiac · 25/11/2016 15:24

Too many dodgy threads on here recently; I'm not surprised the thread has been reported for MN to look at.
Isn't that what we're encouraged to do, rather than troll hunt?

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 15:28

Cock - yes you're probably right. I'm sorry, my last post was probably an over reaction. It's just that when you are living my life (and I AM, truly) - you can be rather sensitive and I just felt really hurt to be called reported as a presumed liar.

I have precious little opportunity to ask for help or opinions in RL and, as I told MNHQ, MN has in effect become a lifeline for me - a release, a means to get stuff off my chest which I (for obvious reasons) can't even talk to 'friends' about. As you were.

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WouldHave · 25/11/2016 15:34

Might it work if you made an appointment with a solicitor and went with your husband?

The £500 he talked about won't have been the price the solicitor would charge for one letter: it was probably a payment on account, and would cover going through all his papers, taking instructions from your husband and advising, confirming that advice in writing, writing the letter, dealing with the response, etc - probably around 3-4 hours' work, depending on how senior the solicitor is and where they are based. Money well spent, I'd say, as it would include proper advice on his legal position and chances of success in whatever he wants to achieve.

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 15:35

Thanks WouldHave, I thought £500 was a bit steep for one letter.

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