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To refuse to write legal letters for DH as he's too tight to pay a solicitor?

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 09:26

Dh has been having letters from his ex-wife’s solicitor relating to the payments he’s making her. He has expected me to respond to these letters. I have no legal training and they advised him to get his own legal advice. He then consulted a parent of DS friend who is a solicitor. He agreed to help draft a response, and DH gave me to understand said parent had agreed to help him for free – I was sceptical as I wondered what he (the parent ) was getting form it, but accepted what DH said on face value. I duly wrote a letter based on scribbled notes DH received from this solicitor parent.

When I bumped into said parent I thanked him for helping and he looked surprised and said – oh no, I’m not taking on free advice & assistance, I just said I will have a look at the letter (and any reply DH gets) and advise him if he has a case.

Massive shock for me as I realise DH is up to his old tricks of (a) conning me and (b) expecting something for nothing – I.e. Refusing to pay for proper legal advice. I talked to DH and said I don not want to be responsible for writing his letters.

He promised me he would get an appt with a solicitor and hand the whole thing over to them to take the stress and worry away from me. He duly told me he had an appt. However….. This turned out to be a free family law surgery organised by his union, and he has now come back to me saying that I need to write a letter for him based on what they told him at this free clinic. He claimed they said it would cost £500 if they wrote the letter.

I was so angry. I re-iterated he needs to get his own legal advice and I can’t be writing letters for him. He has money he could use for this, why not use it, or at least give me something for writing the letters (this will be the 3rd I have written for him based on cheap scribbled notes). He then had the cheek to tell me that I was going to New York in January – as if it was some kind of treat he had paid for – when in fact I am funding myself from my savings.

I feel so frustrated he is trying to do the whole thing 'on the cheap', using me and my writing skills - although I know nothing about the subject matter or his legal rights and I have repeatedly told him I don’t want to do it.

I am at a loss as to how to proceed. He is completely inarticulate and unable to convey information on his own in written form.

If I leave him to muddle his own way through it will be a car crash, and potentially impact our family finances if his ex wife gets more than she might if he got proper advice. On the other hand I really don’t want to get involved as writing these letters causes he huge stress and anxiety.

Sorry for long post.

WWYD?

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 11:58

Kate - I hadn't thought of that, I think it is more to do with the fact he wants something for nothing.

He is tight over everything, not just this. It's typical of him to try to badger people he knows to do him a favour, rather than paying for the job to be done properly.

He once got a plumber to build a partition wall (that is hideously wonky) and same plumber to install a wall light fitting. This light has a lead going through a hole in the wall and is plugged into a socket in the adjoining room.

He wanted same plumber to install a gas hob (as plumber used to be corgi registered Hmm but I absolutely put my foot down over that as I am scared of gas and DS's bedroom is right above if it exploded.

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Jaxhog · 25/11/2016 12:03

I don't see the problem in writing letters for him if you're better at stringing words together. Why wouldn't you? Provided he understands that he may be missing something crucial without proper legal advice.

Peregrane · 25/11/2016 12:07

Sorry, haven't RTFT. I know some people like that. Frankly, with some characters this tightness is a pathology. You can't just reason them out of it, and it takes blood and tears to get them to part with money (in this case, for expertise) in every single case. Bloody hard when they are family. What your DH might really need is a therapist, but how you would get him to agree to that, I really have no idea.

ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 12:09

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GabsAlot · 25/11/2016 12:15

sorry putting your lives in danger should have been last straw

electrics are dangerous aswell btw

CockacidalManiac · 25/11/2016 12:18

Where exactly is the 'convenience' for you in this relationship? It sounds dreadful.

Bogeyface · 25/11/2016 12:30

show probably because if anything did happen then it would be squarely on him.

If you dont believe the OP is genuine then report.

PapalYoungPretenderMortificado · 25/11/2016 12:39

Sorry OP. I think you are a very bad wife.

Any conscientious spouse would be knotting together bits of used string into useful lengths to surprise him with on his birthday, or repairing your shoes with bits of old tyres found on skips - but YOU - you tell him to consult a solicitor to get legal advice and write legal letters/documents. What are you thinking?

Manumission · 25/11/2016 12:41

What is it about the dynamics of your marriage that makes saying a straight "no" (and detaching from the other silliness) difficult?

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 12:42

Im sorry Show, but I find that very hurtful. I absolutely am genuine. There is a difference between my son's life (potentially) and agonising over whether to concede to demands which I am not happy with, but if I don't comply with may have an adverse affect on our joint finances.

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 12:43

Bogeyface I'm not necessarily saying the OP isn't genuine. She may very well be genuine. It's just that her not wanting to stand up to him about the letters (when she can say no and refuse to do it), but can stand up to him about the hob (when he could go behind her back and do it anyway) don't seem to make much sense to me. It may be that OP is trying to find a way of explaining why she can't stop writing the letters when it may be her own guilt stopping her (rather than her DH nagging her) etc. Like I say I'm not sure but I feel like if she's stood up to him in the past about something she could do it again.

TheFuckitBuckit · 25/11/2016 12:43

Was the marriage convenient for you or him?

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 12:44

It was convenient for me FuckitBuckit. If only you all knew why!

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Momentumista · 25/11/2016 12:45

Show - please refer to my post of 12:42:36

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 12:45

Momentumista I am not trying to hurt you at all. I'm sorry if I have given off that impression. I've tried to give you some advice and I sincerely hope that you take on board what posters have said to you because it's good advice.

Your post actually gave me some hope that you might be able to stand up to him. It's a little frustating to hear you say you can't stop writing the letters for fear he might bully or nag you...and then to hear you have stood up to him in the past.

For what it's worth I think you are a genuine poster.

Chippednailvarnishing · 25/11/2016 12:47

What show said.

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 12:48

Show, thank you for that. I apprciate yours and everyone's help.

I found it easier to stand up to something which involves the safety of my son.

This... this is bloody annoying and yes I feel bullied and nagged. But if I don't write the letters and he refuses to consult a professional we are in deadlock and will (could) get screwed over by his ex wife's solicitors who clearly are qualified in this area and I am not. That's all.

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 12:52

I understand.

Can I just ask what the letters are in reference to? Is ex wanting more money? Did your DH and his ex have a "clean break" divorce? (ie the settlement is the settlement and cannot be changed after the decree absolute?)

Or has DH stopped payments and the letters are a demand for that? ie for what was agreed in the settlement?

Either scenario needs a solicitor involved.

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 12:53

show, i am wary of giving too many details for obvious reasons, but it is not a clean break settlement. There are ongoing payments & yes more is being sought.

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PersianCatLady · 25/11/2016 12:55

Will (could) get screwed over by his ex wife's solicitors who clearly are qualified in this area and I am not
This is exactly the reason why your DH needs to consult a legal professional.

If you were (in his mind) to not write the letters properly, purely because you don't understand all of the relevant law then I dread to think how he would react to that.

TheFuckitBuckit · 25/11/2016 12:57

Ah that makes a bit more sense op. I understand why you can't tell us, but you really shouldn't have to feel bullied and nagged, In fact you don't sound happy at all. Do you feel that you are putting up your dhs crappy behaviour because of this?

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 13:00

Fuckit - yes absolutely. I put up with a lot of crap - and expect that is down to some deep seated and possibly irrational sense of gratitude that I am where I am now; and not where I was when we met.

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CozumelFox · 25/11/2016 13:02

He sounds a massive bellend. What's the convenience? He's rich? Has a nice house? I know someone whose mother married for, um, 'convenience'.... and it massively screwed up the kids, because the roof over their head was nice, but he was a total arsehole who went to jail.

You're just going to have to keep saying no, although only you know where that path will lead you (violence?) You seem independent - New York by yourself, you work, right? - so what's the worst he can do, remove you from the home? Be 'unpleasant' - well, he doesn't sound like that would be any different from day to day.

What an embarrassing wanker, asking the parent for free legal work. I'd laugh if I weren't so worried about you.

Either you have the upper hand on this 'marriage of convenience' and you may as well look down upon him as the bumbling, tight-fisted dork he is, or you do not have the upper hand and you fear him and his reactions to your refusals. Which is bad.

He brings nothing positive to your life - I don't mean whatever this 'convenience' is, the visa or the mansion or whatever - I mean love and warmth and soul. There's more to life than whatever it is he brings to the table, and whatever it is, you could get it yourself, or enough (you can afford New York, so you aren't facing poverty if you leave him, right?)

Momentumista · 25/11/2016 13:05

Has anyone ever seen the film Pretty Woman?

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ShowMePotatoSalad · 25/11/2016 13:06

This is obviously causing you to a lot of worry. Rationally, this would all need to be settled in court, and a court will be able to make a fair judgement.

If he wants to settle outside of court, and to give her more money, how likely is this to affect you? If he's as tight-fisted as you say he is I doubt he would just start paying her more. How much of what you are worrying about is irrational fears and how much is real?

If it was me in your situation I would categorically refuse to write more letters. I would advise him again to seek legal guidance. And then ignore the situation entirely.

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