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My husband didn't know Lemsip has paracetamol in it..

281 replies

bbcessex · 22/11/2016 21:49

HUGE HUGE apologies to a reasonably recent OP who posted about paracetamol .

I did not think there was anyone out there who didn't know about the risks of taking too much / medicines that contained paracetamol but seems I should have looked closer to home.

OP posts:
CockacidalManiac · 23/11/2016 15:36

You do know that lots of people actually do share prescription medication? I know they shouldn't, but they do, especially painkillers.

That's really up to them, isn't it.

WankingMonkey · 23/11/2016 15:46

Yeah a lot of people share medication. I have taken painkillers I wasn't prescribed before as there was a 3 week with for my GP, it wasn't bad enough for A&E and a friend offered. A few times people have asked me if I have any painkillers too. I would never give out my oramorph or anything, but I have given codeine to people before (though I do ask if they have had it before, and if not I give a paracetamol instead)

Most know it shouldn't be done, but a lot still do it. My doctor didn't even bother going through the risks with me when I told her I had taken someones oxycontin a year or so ago.

IcedVanillaLatte · 23/11/2016 15:51

Codeine is a class b drug and you can get 14 years and a unlimited fine for supply.

CockacidalManiac · 23/11/2016 15:52

I really feel that this is an issue of personal responsibility.
As a society, we pander to the stupid and careless enough, in my opinion. Hence why media is so dumbed down. Hence President Trump.
God forbid someone should actually have to think about anything, or take responsibility, or not blame everyone else for their life choices.

Graphista · 23/11/2016 15:55

Aside from the legal issues you have NO idea what someone's medical history is, what other meds they're on, allergies etc

I've never and would never share meds.

treaclesoda · 23/11/2016 16:12

I wouldn't share prescription drugs with anyone else in general but probably the one exception might be if Eg my husband had hurt himself and I had prescription strength codeine in my name in the house, and I knew he wasn't on any medication and that he had had it before without incident. In those limited circumstances I probably would say 'yeah, take them', even though I know that it's wrong.

WankingMonkey · 23/11/2016 16:38

Codeine is a class b drug

Wow I didn't know that. Some meds I was on a while back were 'controlled' and I had to sign an extra bit on the slip to get them and take ID. But you can just buy codeine in the shops.. Kinda why I figured it was pretty harmless to give people

brasty · 23/11/2016 16:50

Except someone is not going to be convicted of giving a friend a bit of their prescription medication.
I was really surprised when I was away with a lot of people and hurt myself. I asked if anyone had any painkillers, meaning paracetamol or ibuprofen, and was instead offered all kinds of prescription painkillers by a number of people.

TaraCarter · 23/11/2016 16:52

That's the weakest strength of cocodamol (codeine+paracetamol) that's available otc, WankingMonkey. Pure codeine and cocodamol tablets with a greater concentration of codeine are prescription only.

StarlingMurderation · 23/11/2016 16:53

The supermarkets (or any shop) have a limit of 2 boxes of paracetamol to be sold in any transaction etc, does anybody know if it flags up if you have 3 lemsip or 2 boxes of paracetamol and a box of lemsip

Yes, Tesco wouldn't let me buy lemsip, paracetamol and calpol at the same time - calpol was for my DS and the lemsip for DP and the paracetamol for me.

MrsHathaway · 23/11/2016 16:56

Codeine isn't the same as cocodamol.

That is, one's in the other, but in terms of how they're treated.

I've been prescribed cocodamol before (30/500?) with barely a glance but gosh the interrogation when I was prescribed codeine syrup (pneumonia).

You can't buy codeine over the counter!

IcedVanillaLatte · 23/11/2016 17:05

You can buy cocodamol 8/500 (8mg codeine, 500mg paracetamol) over the counter and it's not a scheduled substance. Prescription cocodamol will be 30/500 and is class B.

Weird about the syrup - I have 100 x 30mg pure codeine tablets on repeat prescription, for migraine, and never get a second glance from pharmacists.

MrsHathaway · 23/11/2016 17:16

I was pretty delirious so may have looked like a drug seeker Grin

Yawnyawnallday · 23/11/2016 17:18

Just to share and for no real purpose: I'm allergic to paracetamol.

WankingMonkey · 23/11/2016 18:16

You can buy dihydrocodeine in the shops also. In a mix with paracetmaol..propanol I think the name is.

I have never been perscibed co-codamol, only ever codeine phosphate. I thought co-codamol was just a shops thing, didn't realise you could get it off a GP tbh. Having said that, some people round here get presciptions for just paracetamol. Its got so bad our doctors and the chemist have put notices up saying you can buy it for 20p...please don't waste NHS money by requesting perscriptions for 20p (in nicer words obviously..)

IcedVanillaLatte · 23/11/2016 18:33

Paramol I think?

MrsHathaway · 23/11/2016 18:53

Yes - propranol(ol) is quite different and if you had 1g of that you'd probably go into heart failure.

WankingMonkey · 23/11/2016 18:56

Yes paramol will be the one Grin

kali110 · 23/11/2016 22:18

wanking maybe some people get paracetamol on prescriptions because of the amounts they need?
I had to as i couldn't go to the shops every few days to get more.
Think you can buy dihydrocodeine otc in a weak form, it's codryamol.
isn't cocodamol and codeinephosphate the same?
I've been on cocodamol for years and it says codeine phosphate on mine.

IcedVanillaLatte · 23/11/2016 22:23

Co-dydramol is paracetamol plus dihydrocodeine, available OTC as Paramol or on prescription at higher doses. Co-codamol is paracetamol plus codeine phosphate, also available with tiny amounts of codeine OTC or at a proper dose on prescription.

IMO the amount of codeine in OTC preparations is not enough to make it worth taking over, say, plain paracetamol, and just enough to make it risky WRT dependence.

kali110 · 23/11/2016 22:27

Def disagree. Small doses of cocodamol before i was diagnosed with migraines were the only thing helped me get out of bed.
Paracetamol was like swallowing a couple of sweets.
Everybody is different.

IcedVanillaLatte · 23/11/2016 22:29

When it comes to decongestants, I never buy off-the-shelf ones which contain phenylephrine, because AFAICR it hasn't been shown to have any useful effects but can still cause rebound congestion. Pseudoephedrine OTC works. I prefer oxymetazoline though if possible as I hate taking systemic drugs when something less BLAM will do.

IcedVanillaLatte · 23/11/2016 22:34

Sorry kali, yes, I meant for me. Anything less than 60mg doesn't touch my migraines :( Dunno why - presumably they're not any more painful than yours. Stupid metabolism.

MiscellaneousAssortment · 23/11/2016 22:53

One of the only pain killers that works on me is IV paracetamol... and I've tried pretty much everything else.

Some trials suggest IV paracetamol is as effective as morphine for some people. And for me, a lot more effective than bloody morphine, grrrr!

Just because we discovered and therefore liscensed it earlier than many other drugs, it doesn't mean it's a wussy namby pamby type of drug to pop at will....

WankingMonkey · 23/11/2016 23:25

Paracetamol IV'd works great for me sometimes. When I was in hospital, one of the nurses was going off it because I was requesting it IV (already had a line in and doc had said it was fine too) and she was screaming at me that its exactly the same as taking tablets Hmm I don't know if thats true...but it didn't seem to be. Tablets were having no effect at all where the IV was great.