To wonder when Mumsnet stopped being a place for mums?

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I used to frequent the site years ago and have come back recently because I became a mum again! However, whilst I am all for equality, the site seems to be full of people who aren't mums or aren't even parents! (and a good few who are journalists hunting for stories!).

I would never suggest anyone be excluded from the warmth, breadth of knowledge or bat shit crazy hysteria that the site offers, I was just wondering when it stopped being a place mainly for mums?

(I am not suggesting dads or non parents aren't welcome, just curious as to when the shift happened?).

"I make no judgement on those with fertility issues"

That's awfully good of you OP.

restless I didn't mean that.i meant the meaning as in like what you think of as a mum.the nurture the care. whether all mums are.no. but what they should be what the meaning 'to mother,or care,to take care and look after. that's all I really didn't mean it like that.

I have kids but I don't really like talking about 'kid' topics. What's left to really say? Oh no, a cold. Oh no, school woes. Oh no, naughty step.

I come for the other topics. Talking about kids is... well, dull.

why woud I ever mean or want rose west!!

Being a mother is part of who I am, but it's not all of who I am.

The same is true of you, actually,, OP. You are a mother, and also a rape apologist! What a multifaceted person you are!

I don't think the OP is asking an unreasonable question. I think the answer is probably when it got much bigger and busier. It used to be reasonable to assume most posters were parents. Because they were.

It's a shame that OP hasn't come back, especially as she carried on sticking the boot into the OP on the other thread

I always think it's a bit odd when a student in America or similar thinks
" I'm having issues with my flat mates/holiday companions, I think I will post on a parenting site in The UK to see what they think"
It doesn't bother me but it just seems strange - like me wondering about BLW and asking about it on Americanhorselovers ( no idea if such a site exists)

Take your goading elsewhere.

kate on a thread where non-parents are getting slated you said that "mum's are the best human beings in the world", kinda made me question if you thought all mums were better than non-mum's.

'Well sorry you can't be on mumsnet anymore you're not a parent'

How about if I identify as a mum?

Livia

Actually this OP is now back in the other thread, having just suggested that someone who passes out drunk deserves anal rape.

This worshipping of the Mother makes me think of the Mother and Whore complex.

It's worrying.

While not in the talk guidelines, it did used to be seen as bad form to bring up a poster's previous threads.

All the people footstomping about the OP being as bad as racism, where are you when there's actually racism on here, as there sadly is now, all too frequently.

Finally, I am becoming increasingly tired of the insistence that Mumsnet shouldn't be called Mumsnet, or have the strapline "for parents, by parents".

I don't see that happening to Pistonheads or Pie and Bovril (even though they talk about other topics too) and I wonder why it is that people think it's sooooo "entitled" for mothers to want a space aimed at them, but not car lovers or football fans.

badlad

Not surprised, ChocolateForAll all part of the Madonna/Whore.

I would just like to clarify that while I did think the OP was innocent and didn't assume it was designed to be goady, her comments on the other thread are sickening and I no longer think she's naive.

And fwiw most of the more twattish posters on the site are parents - Most? Really? Is there some sort of statistical data on this that I'm inaware of?

I didn't say the OP was a racist. I said that the type of people who say 'I'm all for equality but' are the same type of people who say 'I'm not racist but...'

And sorry if we have invaded your space but perhaps HQ shouldn't have opened up so many non parenting related boards...

She IS however someone who thinks being a bit rapey doesn't make you a bad person. Yes it's bad form to bring up other threads but it goes to show the OP as goady rather than it being a genuine question.

I don't understand why it's sooooo entitled for mothers to want a space aimed at them

You don't think it's entitled that other people should be excluded?

There don't seem to be as many parenting threads on the site as there used to be, in places like chat and AIBU.

A large part of that is because Mumsnet has been around a long time now, and posters' children have grown up but the posters remain.

I have also noticed that on some parenting threads if someone with older children/adult children comments, they get responses of times have changed etc. So they may feel their responses are not that useful and join other threads instead.

IPityThePontipines is spot on.

I wouldn't be on here if this site allowed only mothers (requiring birth certificates and regular photos of live off-spring), but I don't see anything wrong with a website aimed at supporting parents.

It's bloody hard being a parent, and you just need to hear from others in the same boat sometimes.

to renaming, and also to thread derailers.

I've been using this site for eleven years, and it is certainly more hysterical in tone, this thread being a prime example. It's all bosom-hoisting and cats-bum-mouthing.

And I, too, pity the pontipines, with their terrible, plastic food and hard, coverless beds.

restless I'm sorry.i ibviously worded it really wrong. I don't post often for that reason. I never say anything right.and I'm not wordly wise at all! I'm really sorry though. I don't mean that at all. I meant when I think of a mother, just a lovely person who cares/mothers/looks out for. that was my reason fir disagreeing with the OP and it isn't just a place for mothers because all people can have that care in them. that's why I came because there were such caring folk on here.even from non mothers.
I'm sorry though. and I still cant seem to word what I'm wanting to say.
I just wanted it to be a place to be looked out for and people for people who care for one another but I said it all wrong. sorry again.