To think if my husband could get hold of a gun he may do the same

[Thefishewife]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3943864/Alabama-father-shot-dead-daughter-s-sexual-abuser-sentenced-40-years-jail.html

Killing is wrong however I can't say if my husband had the acesss to guns they do in the us he wouldn't do the same I saw how he reacted when our 16 year old was attacked last he grabbed a hammer and went looking for the guys

I couldn't say with all honesty if one of our daughters was sexually abused he wouldn't kill the and I am ashamed to say I might let him 😳🙁

I just being honest he did need to be punished but I think 40 years since to long if that's not provacation don't know what is

I just don't think you would be thinking clearly of something like that happened

Revenge and justice are not the same thing. What the dad did was not an act of justice, it was an act of revenge.

Don't blame the father at all. It's shameful he's been sent to prison. I'm glad the paedophile is dead. He very likely prevented other children from being abused. I wish more paedophiles were killed.

My husband would probably do the same. I wouldn't.

I'd tie the fucker up and torture him for a few years and let him die slowly and painfully

Vigilantism is all well and good until the wrong person gets nobbled.

Exactly. Or not even the wrong person - people are complaining about the 27 month sentence for the guy killed and I'm willing to bet more than 90% of them have no idea what exact reasoning went into that sentence - and nor do I.

You can't justify retaliation with the idea that a sentence was too lenient; most people have absolutely no grasp of a) the facts or b) the reasons why those facts are as they are, even if said reasons are presented to them. People are idiots. If you say it's OK to go exact justice on someone because you feel a court was too lenient, that means all the people who don't even know the difference between a paedophile and a paediatrician can do so too.

Violence, whatever the provocation, is wrong.

This is a point of view you only have the luxury to have because you live in a country where the laws has, so far, successfully prevented people being so violent against you that you had no choice but to use violence in self-defense.

Now, I don't live there so my views could be skewed by the fact that I only read the most scandalous articles, but my impression is that the US system does not protect women or PoC, and that it is actually worse than no law at all, because unlike a lawless situation, those who are not protected by the law are not even allowed to defend themselves.

There are no blood feuds to the nth generation not because there is justice, but because those lower in the social hierarchy are punished, sometimes killed (how is that not violence?) by the state itself if they dare to fight back.

My readiness to believe that this is all just bad press and sensationalism and that, in general, the US are actually civilised, has decreased dramatically after they elected Trump.

If I was on a jury on similar case I would never convict

I must admit I forgot the US Justice System 'factor' when writing my post.

Wanting to murder the person who abused your child is a perfectly normal reaction. Actually planning it and then carrying out that plan is not.

The poor child probably feels responsible for the whole sorry mess now and will have another burden to work her way out from under.

Former babe the first case would probably not be murder - battered person syndrome is a defence to murder in England

Killing is wrong of course and two wrongs don't make a right as the old saying goes, but ... could any of us honestly say that we wouldn't feel tempted in a similar situation?

I'm childless but if anyone laid a hand on my dear little great niece I'd want to kick him in the you-know-where so hard he'd have to go to A&E to get them sewn back on.

Now see the rational part of my brain says 'rule of law' blah blah.

However, looking at my tiny vulnerable daughter now.

If someone repeatedly raped her, and got away with a sentence shorter than if he'd commuted a non violent robbery...

In all honestly I'd want to kill him. I'd want to hurt him.

I think wanting to hurt them is totally normal. Especially if they receive what you believe is a light sentence.

The fact is, many people do get sentenced for these crimes and 99.9% of the time, they don't get killed by a family member of the victim, meaning something stops people doing it when they're actually in the situation. Probably a realisation that it won't change what has happened and it won't make things any better for your child. Actually it will only hurt you and your entire family much more.

These prison sentences should've been the other way around. How can a piece of dirt that abuses a little girl for that long only get 27 months? That's a disgrace.
However I do not agree with the father shooting him at all but if it happened to my child I really don't know what I'd be capable of.

In this man's position, I am 99% sure that I could shoot the abuser.

I know that my Dad would 100% track the abuser down and torture him before killing him. And he has access to guns. There would be no way anyone would be able to stop him.

Serving 27 months, for molesting a little girl for 48 months, is an utter piss take.

What I don't understand, is why the father waited 15 years to carry out the killing, and why he shot a random en-route. Sounds like he was having a total melt down.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2408953/Texas-father-beat-Jesus-Flores-death-raping-5-year-old-daughter-NOT-face-murder-charges.html Similar case in Texas only the man didn't get murder charges. However, the man walked in on his child being raped - in those circumstances I absolutely do not think he should be punished. You cannot be responsible for your actions if you walk in on something that horrific. You obviously would not be thinking clearly at all.

But this man, 10 years after? very, very different in my opinion. He also tried to gun down another man and 20yrs of the sentence was for that. I don't think his behaviour can be condoned in these circumstances. Of course I would want to absolutely obliterate anyone who did such a thing to my child - BUT I know how important I am to my son and how much he needs me. Sadly I imagine my ex would do this, he has a thing for guns and would think it made him some kind of hero despite never being there for any of his children.

I couldn't say with all honesty if one of our daughters was sexually abused he wouldn't kill the and I am ashamed to say I might let him 😳🙁

You should be ashamed. You'd be helping you husband go to jail.

Why do you think your husband would do it but not you?

I find these vigilante posts distasteful. No one knows how they would react to anything until happens.

As a PP mentioned, one of the reasons often given by people abused as children as why they didn't tell anyone is because they feared the reaction of their loved ones.

This bugs me. Is it just the menz who are allowed to be outraged and go looking for the perp?

Because DH would have to wait in line if someone hurt our daughters. I'm a very gentle person but doing something so heinous would make you no longer worthy of sympathy in my eyes.

So only Dads and brothers can get the rage?

DD1 is young now but I know for a fact she'd be the first to protect her little sister.

The killer fired a gun into a convenience store. He didn't give a shit who he might have hit and killed. Too damn right he should be locked up.

Just to make it clear in talking about punching the guy or something, not cold blooded murder - just to make that clear.

I feel like people may be missing that there were two incidents, one murder and one attempted murder. 20 years for each it seems.

I agree with most of the posters on here that of course I can understand why he might want to kill but of course I believe in the rule of law and understand why it has to be defended at all costs.

One of the things which will destabilise society is perceived or actual unfairness/injustice - and light sentences for destroying the life on a child are unjust. When the people no longer believe society to be be fair, or that it will protect them they will revolt.

Brooks adopted Julia's mother at birth, and the woman knew him as her father until she was 21, five years after Julia was born.

So, Julia's mother was 16 when she was born ? Doesn't that have implications in certain states ?

It's so tricky. I feel like I would kill anyone who did this. I also feel like I could badly hurt anyone who came into my house while I slept. But I respect the law too and agree that it could give the green light to others. It's tricky and awful, a situation all caused by one selfish sick fuck.. I really feel for the dad.

I think all sex related attack should have a minimum sentence of 10 years.

The father could of campaigned for this, this would protect a whole lot of people.

Now the father will always be a murder and will not be there to support his daughter.