To think if my husband could get hold of a gun he may do the same

[Thefishewife]

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3943864/Alabama-father-shot-dead-daughter-s-sexual-abuser-sentenced-40-years-jail.html

Killing is wrong however I can't say if my husband had the acesss to guns they do in the us he wouldn't do the same I saw how he reacted when our 16 year old was attacked last he grabbed a hammer and went looking for the guys

I couldn't say with all honesty if one of our daughters was sexually abused he wouldn't kill the and I am ashamed to say I might let him 😳🙁


I just being honest he did need to be punished but I think 40 years since to long if that's not provacation don't know what is

I just don't think you would be thinking clearly of something like that happened

[AQuickNC]

876

[Sybys]

And let's not ignore that be tried to kill someone else on the way to the murder, shooting up a petrol station and restaurant in the process. Amazing that more weren't killed.

[LouisvilleLlama]

The 40 years is for an attempted murder and a pre meditated 10 years after the fact, I could understand losing it at the time of discovery but not 10 years later

[BastardGoDarkly]

Considering baby p's mum served 5 years, I think 40 for this man is ludicrous.

[Itisnoteasybeingdifferent]

In the legal process there is one person who is ingored.. the victim.

The victim has no rights, is not heard and everything focuses on the (alledged) criminal. After sentencing the criminal has rights, even in jail. Perhaps the father feels he was let down by the system and sought to redress the deficit. Thus his greatest crime was to administer his understanding of justice.

What sentance is normally handed down in the case of murder?

[876TaylorMade]

When you consider the sentences given to child molesters and sexual predators... You can understand why someone would take matters into their own hands!

40yrs for removing one from the earth is far too long. What the father did was illegal....but I wouldn't say wrong!
His child will live with the scars of sexual abuse for the remainder of her life. I know personally I would have loved to see my abuser killed! It's not an easy burden to live with...especially when they are people in your family step-dad fucking piece of shite!

[CouldIHaveIt]

It's all very well saying 'leave it to the justice system' but it's a farce. The sentence that guy got for what he did was a joke, it's no wonder the father didn't think justice had been done 😕

[IAmNotAWitch]

DH wouldn't do that.

I would.

Killing is illegal, it isn't always wrong IMO. Laws exist for people like me. There are lots of things I would do that I don't - not out of any moral feeling of "wrongness" but because I don't wish to be punished.

So I would weigh up the "reward" (the satisfaction of revenge) against the "risk" (getting caught/making it worse for my child because I had to go to prison) and then make a decision.

DH might WANT to, but at his heart he is a gentle soul. Me, not so much. I would also as a woman be in a better place as far as possible punishment goes.

[Sybys]

I can sympathize with people wanting to inflict pain or worse on abusers to a large extent, but the guy in the OP sounds like a nutjob to me.

[AQuickNC]

Thank you Stealth

[AQuickNC]

Starry call me a liar then. DC was abused. I've entertained many mental images of how I would treat DCs abuser, to the degree of imagining maiming the abuser to an extent where it would impact upon the abuser's life. Still, I couldn't do that.

[AQuickNc]

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[BoneyBackJefferson]

The thing is where do you draw the line?

Its very easy to see why schools in the USA have on site police and metal detectors.

[Ohb0llocks]

Starry, absolutely agree.

[Ohb0llocks]

I don't think anyone can say what their reaction would be unless they've ever been in that situation.

Was he right to do what he did? No. Can I understand why he did it? Absolutely.

Even the thought of someone harming so much as a hair on my DS's head brings out such a raw primal instinct to protect him, but this was 10 years down the line. If I had have been that father who walked in on his daughter being assaulted I have absolutely no doubts that I would have done the same.

[crashdoll]

Again, with respect, it's about what's best for the person who has suffered the most. It's one of the most soul destroying things to happen to you. It makes me rage when other people make my pain about them and their feelings.

[Littleelffriend]

Starry I'm so with you. Me and my mum used to talk about this. At the time I only had my niece, ny mum's only grand child. We agreed that if anyone hurt her I would kill them and she would take the blame as she was terminally ill. And I was on the police

[Nataleejah]

I feel so sad for poor father. Laws and criminal justice are there for a reason but often completely unfit for purpose

[WankingMonkey]

I don't know...maybe my mind is wired wrong or something. My brother was abused when he was around 9 by a 'boy' of 17. I was 18 at the time. I distinctly remember my brother being upset that 'noone cared what had happened to him' despite many reassurances and conversations with my parents. My dad was never one for violence or anger. he did not show anger during conversations with my brother about it. But I saw him visibly shaking with rage while my mother calmed him down and talked him down. My brother saw the 'lack of reaction' as noone willing to fight for him. I accept that violence is not the answer. But it felt fucking good to hit that dickhead that repeatedly laughed in my brothers face that he would never be believed. My brother thanked me. My mum and dad fell out with me until my brother explained to them what he had said to me and how he felt. Then all was forgiven.

So its not always as black and white as 'revenge will hurt the victim'. Having said that, I wasn't caught. It might not have been such a good 'solution' had I been arrested. The lad told noone it was me as I (perhaps wrongly) told him if he told the police (who by the way, had been informed about the abuse previously and did fuck all) I would tell everyone in our area exactly what he was. revenge is not the answer...but I do not regret it one bit. In the same circumstances I would still do it again to make my brother feel safer and secure. I do not think I would be as quick to react that way now, as I have the kids to consider. But I cannot guarantee that I would not, especially if my child took it the same way my brother did when everyone tried to be 'civilized'

[crashdoll]

Forget the shitty justice system, revenge and your anger as a parent, perhaps focus on the person who is meant to be the most important person in the middle of all this. How must she feel knowing she's lost her dad too?

It's quite likely that her abuser bullied her and verbally manipulated her into not telling anyone because "bad things will happen to you" and oh look, bad things did happen to her....more bad things. Poor woman. :( I am so very sad for her.

[WankingMonkey]

I just asked my dad his opinion and he replied "A gun? Nah, babe, wouldn't waste the time or money, I'd do the cunt with my bare fucking hands.

DH considered for a moment, said he would let the law sort it, though would be raging inside and wanting to hurt the person. I explained the law had given an absolutely ridiculous sentence, one thats chance to be less than someone would get for not paying a TV license. He then changed his mind and said the mistake the father made was using a gun, which would have been quick and relatively painless compared to what was deserved.

I understand those that would leave it to the 'justice system' but the Justice system fails spectacularly on a regular basis. These people should never be released. It is playing russian roulette with more children and its not fair or right. Yes it would cost the tax payer more, but I would be willing to take a tax rise in order to keep the children of the country safer tbh.

[StarryIllusion]

If anyone sexually assaulted my children I would cut off his penis with a hacksaw, pour vinegar in the wound and leave him tied up to bleed to death. I would not consider this murder but rather vermin control. And I won't even kill mice. I just asked my dad his opinion and he replied "A gun? Nah, babe, wouldn't waste the time or money, I'd do the cunt with my bare fucking hands. I really think expecting any parent to show restraint when faced with the person who sexually abused their child is asking far too much. Imagine your child being raped. Hurt and scared and some scum enjoying it. Now imagine standing in a room with the person responsible. If you can show me a single one of you who would let him walk out of there alive, I'll show you a liar.

[crashdoll]

^you're making not your making.

[crashdoll]

YABU. Interesting how many people have considered their own feelings and what they would want to do and not how it would impact on their child; the victim. Reactions like this are why many people do not report sexual abuse and crimes. So, in your desperate attempts to be super protective parent, you'd probably further harmed your child who has already likely been damaged by the sexual abuse. Basically, your making your child a further victim.

[Awwlookatmybabyspider]

The Bastard got everything he deserved. And this girl's father was the only one who could give it to him. Good riddance to disgusting child abusing rubbish.
My sympathy is with that poor girl and her family.