to be alarmed at school budget cuts

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Apparently some schools are going to be badly hit by the new fair funding formula - inner city areas hit hardest. If you put in your postcode it tells you what sort of cuts your school could face, and how this could equate to teachers and TAs jobs. Not encouraging!

(( www.schoolcuts.org.uk/#/ ))

The private school? Clarendon cottage - fees are around £1400 per term. And not all of Salford is deprived, it has some very affluent pockets. I do believe Salford schools will take a huge hit under the new formula, but as around 20% of its school places are sitting empty there are savings to be had.

Apparently my local inner city will lose a teacher, it's one form entry with a teacher per class and a headteacher doing intervention teaching.... so that translates as unviable?

In the case of Manchester I guess someone somewhere established that free nursery education was cheaper than the amount of teacher led specialist intervention they were using to catch up pupils. It's not just a case where they have loads of money and are feeling kind...

Some privates here are cheap because they have tiny buildings and unqualified teachers, i.e. They are providing a shit education. But they keep out the riff raft and if you don't keep up or tutor to keep up they can kick that child out so their results are comparable to better states.

Well if that was the thought process behind Manchester sex it hasn't worked. The scheme has been in place for as long as I can remember (at least 2 decades) and unemployment is still higher than average and attainment is still low at many schools, despite their higher than average per pupil funding (they are top 10 outside of London). Sticking kids in nursery from 9-3 (actually 30 hours when you include lunch) at the age of 3 won't help them do better if the parents have don't care about education attitudes.

Tiny buildings - like the prefab buildings at many state schools?

Shit teaching - a bit like some state schools?

Flaws and shitness in both sectors regardless of how much money they have.

Another islander here boggling at the cuts my reception DC's lovely primary school will have to bear over the next 3 years witsender

All the fantastic stuff we really wanted them to go to that school for - music, a well-stocked library, outdoor activities - presumably now at serious risk.

Why is the island being hit so badly? (if it is>!)

It may have raised the bar still, though not provided a complete solution. I see why they've tried if the children's backgrounds are as you describe!

I presume although you didn't have the funding your local schools/ average home life is not so dire?

I've observed/ taught and trained in many state schools, and I've seen many a weak teacher go to the private sector to avoid competency. Good private is good, but the lowest end is well below state standards. Even in a nearby good one I observed classes of 25 rote learning/ textbooks with very very young staff struggling to hold fort. The facilities were amazing, senior staff wow but they seemed to teach upper school.

I have been an infant supply teacher for the last few years working directly with local schools not through an agency. From the middle of last academic year I was working gradually less and less .
This is a budget cut. When regular teachers are unwell or attending courses, the class is being covered by an LSA, often without an additional assistant in the classroom.
However professional and talented the assistants are, this can not be the right thing for the children. For one thing, the pay that assistants receive is appalling.
I am very concerned about what is happening in state primary schools.
Re SEN, in one of my regular schools the SENCo is on long term leave and there is no named replacement. This is illegal. Every school must have a SENCo.

Round our way the Sen services, such as speech and language or OT, have become opt in. Some schools are neither opting in to NHS provision or funding alternative! You just try and get an EHC without your child ever having seen a professional or the school acknowledging needs! In my sons class there was a classically autistic boy, very limited speech and clear global delay, probably operating around age 3 in year 1. He was utterly ignored and his parents were desperate, but they struggled to get anywhere. No clear pathway over 5 ( mum was lovely and admitted she'd avoided the system: nursery but should have tackled it pre school). Lovely boy, but so sad to observe him struggle

Well in my area we get some of the lowest funding in the country. So some of our schools will actually get more money under the formula.

An area near me gets 2nd from bottom funding, and has something like 4/10 bottom schools in the country. So changes to the funding formula is only a good thing imo.

And the website is run by the NUT which hates Tories. Not sure they're impartial.

DS's old school will be £133k down. He goes to a private special school now (paid for by our LA), I feel relieved that I got that named on his EHC Plan as they have all the speech therapy, OT etc all in house and he will continue to get it as it is written into his plan. It will be awful for the pupils left behind who don't have the provision specified in their plans, things like TAs and therapy services will be dropped when these funding changes come in.

I left teaching to home ed my children because of the inability to meet needs.

£89,000 for our local school. Looks like one or two of the 6 headteachers they have may have to go .

The secondary I teach in will lose 9 teachers equivalent.

Already we have had cuts which mean we have not been able to replace text books as courses change.

We now have a rapidly reducing department budget (being reduced m

id year) so photocopying is being restricted. So no books, no sheets, just the board to put work on - not the best for differentiating work for all, students working at different speeds, etc etc.

A local teacher friend has just put out an appeal on local FB sites asking for donations of material as her head has said she is not allowed to buy any for her textiles lessons!

Its a very sorry state of affairs.

14 teachers lost. 600 student secondary. brutal.

Instead of all this 'oh but our school should have more funding because x,y and z' how about all schools should have decent funding because this is our children's education we're talking about.

Stop with the pointless bickering. This is how the Tories operate. Divide and rule. They need us placing blame everywhere but with them.

We pay our taxes and they're supposed to cover this. They always seem to be able to fund things like illegal wars in Syria and Trident. The money is there for the NHS. It's there for our schools. Wonder whose pocket is being lined because someone is making a shed load out of what we pay in.

I don't know if people saying 'ooh, fairer funding, my school should get more' have actually looked at the website. Over 90% of schools face cuts.

My school which is in a reasonably funded area is actually losing less money than a similar size school in one of the worst funded areas in the country. I don't quite understand why this might be.

I agree creamycrackers. Several of my regular 2 form entry primaties have a head, an assisstant head and a deputy head. All non teaching.
They cant afford supply teachers though.......

We home ed now, but which school are yours at Splintery?

A green and yellow one

Our local high school is the poorest funded in the county and by that reckoning will lose a further £90k or two more teachers-DD currently is taught mainly by students as running a teach teachers program is the only way that school has enough "teachers" to cover. We have a begging letter at the start of each year asking for donations from each family as it is the only way they can continue.

The primary school is losing twice that.

As is always said-it is not a race to the bottom and trying to make all school equally poorly funded-funding should be raised to make all equally well funded. This is our children's (and the worlds) future we are talking about.

Over 90% of schools face cuts. Do you know what proportion of schools will actually get more funding as a result of this, as opposed to no change? A few people on this thread seem to be under the impression that their school will benefit from this.