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AIBU to find Trump's victory physically painful?

91 replies

DisappointedBeyondBelief · 09/11/2016 10:34

There are people walking around laughing about it, but I don't find this funny. It's awful.

I couldn't sleep last night.

This is a horrible, horrible man.

He's a misogynist who is guilty of sexual assault and body shaming women.

He's a racist who wants to build walls.

He's a rich, white man who represents everything that's wrong in our world.

Why? Why why why did this happen.

And you can hate Hillary or love her, but you've got to admit she was wayyyy more qualified than Trump.

The fact that a qualified woman lost to a disgusting misogybist is 100 steps back for women everywhere

I am not someone who would ever vote based on gender (I wouldn't vote for Sarah Palin just because she's a woman), on this occasion I'm disappointed we didn't get our First Female President of the United States.

I know it's not just about gender and many people dislike Hillary (I respect that totally)

But this could have been a historic moment that would have set a precedent for young girls all over the world.

Instead, we have to now explain to our daughters why a man who thinks its ok to "grab p*ssies" has won over a qualified female candidate.

I'm so disappointed.

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Lottapianos · 10/11/2016 08:43

'It is grotesque that a bunch of old fucking farts have forced Trump on the next generation'

Totally agree Pitiless. Old white men back in charge again. Great.

Absolutely heartbroken for Hillary and all of her supporters. I can only imagine how under 25s are feeling, having turned out to vote for Hillary in their droves on Tuesday

Roussette · 10/11/2016 08:54

Absolutely heartbroken for Hillary and all of her supporters. I can only imagine how under 25s are feeling, having turned out to vote for Hillary in their droves on Tuesday

But not enough Lotta. here is what the map would've looked like had they all turned out.

Goldenhandshake · 10/11/2016 09:18

My DD is 8, every day at school they watch a news round up of current events. She said everyone was talking about it, I agree that the only silver lining I can see so far, is that younger generations are more politically engaged than ever.

Mineiswine69 · 10/11/2016 09:20

i am hoping the rhetoric is just that and the reality will be different. Hopefully he can build some bridges with Putin and the world might actually be a bit safer going forward.

He couldn't be more hung ho than Bush was surely?

Cocklodger · 10/11/2016 09:25

I'd like to know how this is bigger than brexit though...?
I don't understand, Trump will be in power for 4 years, brexit may well be forever.

Cocklodger · 10/11/2016 09:28

I do however agree that it is awful, and I am frightened for what the next 4/5-10 years in politics in the western world will hold.

KlingybunFistelvase · 10/11/2016 09:31

Yanbu but, please don't be too hard on the people trying to laugh about it.

I am at the point with it where I don't feel able to fully process it. I can't think about the possible repercussions of the result and I don't really want to as it's all too bleak.

I use humour as a defence mechanism; I grew up somewhere where there was a lot of political violence and my parents witnessed some of the worst atrocities there due to their work as HCPs. They saw some horrifying things and as a result we all had a bit of a dark sense of humour. We wouldn't have made any disrespectful jokes, but just tried desperately to inject some laughter or lightheartedness into the grief and darkness.

The same thing happened when my mum died suddenly and unexpectedly. We were devestated but still managed to joke about other things and reminisce about my mum's amazing sense of humour.

Don't assume that because people are trying to laugh about this that they don't give a shit. That isn't fair.

ModernToss · 10/11/2016 13:10

Cocklodger, it's worse than Brexit because Trump has Congress behind him. The two liberal Supreme Court judges are very old, and Trump will be able to appoint not only one new right-wing Justice to replace Scalia (because the Republicans wouldn't appoint Obama's moderate choice) but also, in all probability, two more. That means a huge swing to the right that could last for decades. One inevitable result would be the overturning of Roe v. Wade, the bill that legalised abortion rights.

He intends to unravel the Paris Agreement on climate change, and will certainly backtrack on many more of Obama's policies and civil liberty advancements.

The damage could well be irreparable.

PitilessYank · 11/11/2016 05:41

I realized this evening that I hadn't smiled in nearly 48 hours!

I am going to an anti-Trump rally in a few days, and a friend asked "well, what will that do?"

And I told him that I need to go for me, to feel less alone in my grief over this disastrous event. It is also important that we in the US show other countries that we are not all total assholes!

I have hit bottom, I think. Never the biggest patriot around, but I genuinely hate my own country right now.

JerryFerry · 11/11/2016 05:53

You're definitely not alone! The mood is very low where I am and I feel slightly bereaved, wavering between denial, despair and trying to be brave.

I am also sick to death of hearing the moronic chant, "Hillary is a criminal". What utter crap some people talk. A criminal is someone who has been convicted of a crime. HC has been investigated relentlessly for about 25 years, and not a drop of evidence has been unearthed.

I'm afraid some people will spout any nonsense to validate their own bigotry.

Winetime79 · 11/11/2016 07:30

Are you all from the US? I could see why that would make you worried but living in the UK it doesn't really directly affect us unless his policies have a direct impact on this country. You might disagree with his policies etc but I don't like Kim Jong policies in North Korea either but I don't get overly upset about it.

It's hard to know how it will all pan out really until he has been in office for a while. I think he is already showing signs of a softening and that a lot of his bluster was just that.

Squeegle · 11/11/2016 08:17

winetime it worries me because of the foreign policy he will be leading. He will have the nuclear codes too. That is scary.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/11/2016 08:24

It worries me because the sentiments that took him into office are ones that are rising across Europe too. We have French and German elections coming up next. His win will strengthen the rise of the right there.

OhYouBadBadKitten · 11/11/2016 08:27

rousette, that map shows what would have happened had anyone older than 25 (I think) had been excluded, not what would have happened if all the millenials had turned out.

minifingerz · 11/11/2016 08:55

YANBU

I had a crawling sensation all over my body after finding out the result.

I can't bear the thought of seeing his smug orange face on my screen day after day for years on end. Sad

AutumnLeavesAgain · 11/11/2016 10:33

I'd feel a bit sick if Kim Jong-un got voted in tbh.

I saw Alan Greenspan comment that he thought as Trump was putting on an act to get elected he thinks he thinks he may do well at "acting" presidential. That aspect of vanity works positively for my kids sometimes..

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