No dogs in school playground. Is it ok to carry your dog in?

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As long as they don't touch the ground?

Lots of parents with dogs at our school - mainly small ones - we are in a large city. It's right next to a busy road too so can't really leave them outside. Some used to tie them up in a corner of the playground but now the caretaker patrols that area to prevent it, so some parents are now carrying their small dogs in. I have not by the way, my routine doesn't necessitate taking my dog on the school run. Just seen a parent be asked by the deputy head not to carry her small breed dog in as the rule is "No Dogs" on school premises - but the reasoning for this has always been unhygienic in school playground. If dog doesn't touch ground then not unhygienic surely? So no harm done. Anyway thought I would put it to MN as it's something that I have idly wondered about over the school run years

Dog owners never seem to understand that a lot of people really don't like or want to be anywhere near dogs. Being forced to share what should be a dog-free zone with dogs is quite simply not on.

So in answer to OP. No.

I've stood in the playground and seen one mum allow her dog to make a very nasty mess and then she swiftly picked the dog up and walked away, and before any one could say a word another mum wheeled her pushchair through it . That's all you need, one selfish idiot who allows this to happen, or brings in a dog that goes absolutely potty barking at everyone, and then schools have to say 'no dogs'. I love dogs, have always had at least one, but can see the point entirely if schools ban them. The trouble is always at the other end of the lead but that doesn't help when your pushchair wheels are covered in poo and the guilty owner has vanished into the crowd.

We have a 'no dogs' policy still found dog shit in the playground the other week

There is one woman who brings her big, snarling, hulk of a dog every day and waits a bit up from the main entrance. She isn't even a parent (she is a granny) and for some unknown reason accompanies her daughter and grandchild on the school run as opposed to taking the horrible thing to the park across the road.

The dog is not nice. It has to be restrained when my DC goes past on his scooter and the woman always makes a jokey comment about how excitable her "pup" is.

I just don't get it?

I am scared of dogs since my brother as bitten on the face as a child. My children are scared of dogs since they were bowled over on three different occasions as toddlers by neighbours dogs, a dog on the beach and one in the park running up and barking and jumping up at them and on another occasion a large dog running onto our picnic blanket in a park and eating food from their laps.
As a result the walk into school past lots of tied up dogs is horrible for us. I wish people wouldn't tie their dogs up outside school. However I can't say I have ever mentioned this to anyone so I guess those dog owners probably think everyone loves seeing their dogs outside the school because no one has told them otherwise.
I am extremely relieved there is a no dog policy in playgrounds but frequently annoyed as I still see parents/careers carrying puppies or small dogs in the playground on a regular basis. Those owners are also probably thinking no one minds as no one has said anything.
I wouldnt say anything as I prefer to keep the peace but it is inconsiderate.

There's a graveyard near us with a big sign at the gate that says "No unaccompanied dogs".

I love to think of all the unaccompanied dogs that read the sign and quietly potter off to find a different park to play in.

Couldn't there be an area just outside the school gates for people to tie up dogs for a short time? Like a designated dog zone?

Or dog walking parents could buddy up-one takes the kids in while the other minds the dogs.

Both my children are scared of dogs. Both due to dogs "being friendly" to them in a place where dogs were supposed to be kept on leads. Completely separate occasions, several years apart, completely different places. In one of the cases the "dogs must be kept on a lead" sign was all of 3m away from where the dog decided to give my (then) 2 year old "kisses".

"Oh - he's a big softie" said one owner. "He won't hurt a fly" said the other.

Really?!? Well there is a screaming crying toddler who talks about it for days afterwards and (in dd's case) is still afraid 4 years later. That seems like quite a lot of hurt to me.

I'm really not a fan of dog owners who can't follow simple, basic rules.

I'm the owner of two very well controlled dogs. But if there is a no dogs policy then that means no dogs allowed. Under any circumstances.....

YABU.

No dogs allowed = your dog isn't allowed.

It is not at all difficult to understand.

I must be missing something as last night there was a thread about a restaurant having a No Children Policy in a hotel but the OP was unhappy about this?
No children allowed means no children and No
Dogs means No bloody dogs, of course with the exception of Guide dogs which are allowed everywhere.
So what is it that the OP in this thread doesn't understand ?
It doesn't matter if the dog is on a lead or she is carrying it or it is under her jumper or sitting on her head with disguised as a hat.
No dogs means No Dogs are allowed on the premises.
End of discussion.

Avamiah I don't know what it is about telling people No 'something'.

No dogs
No Children
No using mobile phones

Its like the automatic reaction is ''Surely that doesn't apply to me though, right?'' Oh it does? Okay ''But what if...'' Insert some way to get around it. Like picking up your dog. Or taking the child out if it makes a peep. Or putting your phone on silent.

NO MEANS NO!

7Sunshine,
Absolutely Correct .
You go to a theatre and they say no pictures are to be taken and switch phones off but there is always someone who doesn't switch their phone off and it rings.
Then when everybody looks at them, they wonder why as they think they have done nothing wrong.
In my opinion, these people have issues.

Sunflower - our school has a designated dog zone. Half a dozen rings fastened into the wall of the school, twenty feet away from the gate. It is set back from the pavement so nobody has to get close if they don't want to and the waiting dogs are not encroached on by the squealing hordes trundling past. It seems like a good idea to me, and the dogs seem happy en masse sniffing each other. A parent tried carrying in a puppy recently and was firmly reminded about the no dogs rule. There was some grumbling by the dog owning fraternity ("but nobody minds!" - well have you asked everyone?!) but it didn't happen again. There are also those parents who eschew the dog zone and insist on tying their dog up to the hedge right by the gate 'so he can still see us'. I think this is off.

To the pp who said the majority of people are happy to see their dogs - no, people are just being polite. I don't like dogs myself but I wouldn't go round saying that to my many friends and acquaintances at the school who have them.

Sorry - giant paragraph

No. I've seen a few tiny pups inside their owners jackets but haven't seen them since (the dogs, not the owners). My eldest DS is petrified and it's difficult enough making sure he doesn't jump into the road when he sees one, let alone run from one in the playground. Imagine being a teacher and having to scrape crap off of half a dozen pairs of shoes every other day!

Dog owners never seem to understand that a lot of people really don't like or want to be anywhere near dogs. Being forced to share what should be a dog-free zone with dogs is quite simply not on

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As long as they don't touch the ground?

No.

It's human nature to question rules surely otherwise we'd just be compliant unquestioning robots. Mind you that might have been handy considering this mornings election result.

opposing a 'no dogs in the playground' rule doesn't strike me as similar to being concerned about the election of a demagogue.

As long as they don't touch the ground?

No?

No dogs means no fucking dogs!

Our head teacher has put out an email saying no dogs in the playground as people keep bringing their dogs in and no- carrying them in should not be allowed either. My DS is scared of dogs although I'm trying to help him get over it. There is a lot of dog poo outside our school which I think is being left their deliberately. Some people seem to think their dogs are more important than humans and get offended if you say anything to them, that's up to them but they should understand the rules. Our local park has had a fence put up and signs so no dogs, guess what people still take their dogs in and when you point it out to then you get a mouthful of abuse.

*left there deliberately and signs saying no dogs. Typos!

DD2 is terrified of dogs of all sizes whether they are on the ground, on a lead or in the air! The school playground is one of those places where she should not have to worry about encountering one.

My Dp really offended a Woman with a dog a few weeks back. They had come to collect something from us which they had bought on eBay.

They had travelled 150 miles and brought their dog with them. After the transaction was complete we invited them in for a drink and to use the loo whatever before they travelled back.

The Woman went to walk into the house with the dog but dp said 'sorry we have a cat the dog will have to wait in the car'. The woman just carried on walking in the house saying 'Don't worry it will sit under my feet on its lead, it won't bother the cat'.

Dp then says 'No sorry, the dog really can not come in'. She proceeds to scoop it up under her arm and says 'It will be fine, it will sit on my knee'.

Dp AGAIN had to make it quite clear the dog was not welcome in our home, She refused to come in and I took their coffee outside to them in the end,

Her Husband looked mortified by her behaviour, I can imagine it was a frosty ride home

God no! Allergies have got nothing to do with whether it touches the ground, is large or small or anything else. Dogs do not belong in schools.