to feel annoyance when my childless colleagues keep saying how tired they are?

[sandyballs]

They don't know the meaning of the word

YABU. It's not a completion; I have no children but I'm exhausted because I'm doing a difficult clinical degree and I work part time...and even if I didn't, I still have the right to be tired! Nobody likes a martyr.

Despite being a zombie thread, it's fascinating how views have changed in the last ( how time has flown) 15 years since this thread was started.

and weird seeing some of the old names on this when there were fields round here blah blah blah, mums net was much more parenty parenty and naive back then

I'd love to hear from some of the ops their children must be grown up now so they must no longer ever feel tired since you can only be tired when you have small kids and for no other reason 🤔

I just feel extremely envious.

now that my kids are teens, it is a lot easier than when they were pre schoolers and primary school kids. They can be left, don’t have a million clubs to be taken to etc.

Pretty much the same as the OP then. :-)
This thread is 15 years old

YABU unreasonable to assume that having children is the only thing in life that can possibly cause people to be tired.
As other posters have mentioned, people may have insomnia, a snoring partner, noisy neighbours, other caring responsibilities, etc, etc.

Oh give over!
People have plenty of reasons for being tired… children are just one of them.

Honestly!

Well I'm exhausted from moving all the furniture out of the way for the carpet fitter. 😂

It's been a good while since one of these smug mother threads popped up on here, how original you all are with your judgements.
"I'm a mother and you are not so you can't possibly know what tiredness feels like".
"I'm a mother and you are not so you can't possibly understand what genuine love is".
"I'm a mother and you are not so you can't possibly know what worrying and stress is like".
Get over yourselves. If you choose to have children you accept all the struggles that come with raising them. Just as you accept all of the joy and love that comes too. Everyone can feel tired, one person's being greater doesn't make the other person's any less. Everyone can have broken sleep, for all sorts of reasons. Everyone can worry about money. Everyone can love.
I have a full time job, financial worries, I care for my elderly parents, and I have a long-term very painful condition. I don't go around judging others for feeling tired regardless of their circumstances because I'm not a judgemental smugface, I just sympathise. It's a basic human emotion.

Same thing happened to me

People told me it had all been in my head and I got better because having a child must have psychologically fulfilled me

I know it's a zombie but god, what a horrible thread. I'm tired because I have insomnia as I'm depressed and infertility is a big factor in that. And in the past I have gone though phases of being shattered because I'm pumped full of hormones from fertility treatment that cause insomnia. But how the hell would I understand....

My three children are grown but I feel constantly tired with working night shifts.

Having kids was your choice no? Deal with the consequences. YABU. Childless people can complain about being tired if they wish, you don't know their circumstances and even if you did what business is it of yours anyway. Be empathetic instead of trying to out do each other, it's not a race to the bottom. It's ok to feel anything irrespective of your circumstances.

Yes we can sympathise! My best friend never had kids and is caring for her mother in her 90s and both their animals and it will continue being full on until she dies. She has carers helping daily but everything has to be planned around her mum. She can’t do anything impromptu.

And one of my friends has a severely autistic child. There is no way I should have moaned as compared to her life (18 years of broken sleep and physically having to restrain an adult and cleaning up after his mess etc) mine is a dream.

And I also complained pre kids. Now that my kids are so much easier compared to when they were young, I don’t complain because life seems really easy to me now. However, pre kids, when I had more time, I did complain about how busy/tired I was.

I remember when I was pregnant with my first baby, a woman at work telling me she knew exactly what it was like having a baby because she has a dog that sometimes wakes her up in the night. I saw out of the corner of my eye my other colleague looking like she was about to burst a vein with silent rage 😂

So as well as not knowing what love is us child-free women also don't know what tiredness is. Anything else we're utterly ignorant about?

Meh, it's all relative. Imagine telling someone up all night with sen kids you're tired, or a refugee woman who carried a baby across a border, or someone living in Ukraine being bombed, or someone homeless etc etc

Many things are worse and more exhausting than small children.

I did once visit friends who didn't have kids with dc when she was a baby - adult friends had to have a nap when we left, we were only there an hour and a half!

I don’t understand, it’s not a competition. Everyone is entitled to moan and not silenced because they’re not a parent. If someone is tired then they’re tired. Having children is also self inflicted so why is your tiredness more valid than theirs. I have my own children and I believe hormones make it that bit easier to ensure you survive the late nights that children bring particular babies and my kids are nightmare sleepers compared to others and it is self inflicted as I don’t do controlled crying. I also have a chronic health condition that keeps me tired. I have a relative who is an a&e doctor I’m certain she gets less sleep than I do some nights but I can’t imagine her scoffing at my tiredness and vice versa. There could be chronic health conditions that you can’t see, trouble sleeping, stress etc noisy neighbours, work being taken home etc. Even if someone has partied hard so what. Parenting isn’t martyrdom.

Horrible ZOMBIE

Tiredness is not conditional on having children. For instance, you can have life-long insomnia, be on medications that make you feel shattered. Those aren't choices, having children is, just as going out partying is.

You have no idea what might be going on in other people's lives. So yes, YABU.
Parents don't own the monopoly on tiredness.

Your body let's you know when you are fatigued or tired . Child care is simply one of many things that can lead to tiredness and fatigue.

Generally your work colleagues are not the best audience for your litany of complaints about your personal life.

As teens when my siblings and I would complain about being tired my mom would tell us to "work smarter and think faster." I was never quite sure what she meant, but I took it to mean that there was probably a more effective way to structure my activities.

Child free people aren’t immune from the causes of tiredness, same as having a baby doesn’t mean you’ll never sleep again.

I was never tired when I had my kid because he was a ludicrously good sleeper. I have a childfree friend with insomnia. I used to go over with the baby to help her out.

fuck sake. 2007!

Who are these pricks bringing back truly ancient (and this case shitty) threads?