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Who the fuck gets a puppy just to leave it outside crying?

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JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 11:31

In fucking November as well?? Angry

Neighbours got a puppy a couple of days ago and seem to have left it outside ever since to cry it's little heart out. Sad

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ShmooBooMoo · 01/11/2016 12:37

Yes, please ring them and tell us if they are any help. Poor little thing. Is there a gate you could open when they're out (if you could find another home for it)? They don't deserve a pet...the evil shits.

JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 12:50

Okay I called the council and they were less than helpful Hmm they said all I was telling them is that there was a puppy crying and that wasn't really enough to warrant a call out as puppies do cry until they settle in. I said I couldn't see a kennel or water for it and they said if I could try and get a better look at some point and if I am sure there is no shelter or water and it's still being left out to call them back but at this stage there wasn't enough to warrant a visit.

I wouldn't dare go near their gate or garden. The husband is a scary bastard, and there are people all around who would see me. Also their gate is a latch gate so they would know someone had opened it and probably blame me immediately. Not worth the risk to me TBH.

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NavyandWhite · 01/11/2016 12:54

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JoffreyBaratheon · 01/11/2016 12:57

Yes, our council's Dog Warden part of their website, tells you if there are any cruelty/neglect concerns - bugger off and ring the RSPCA. Not much use.

JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 12:59

The only way to get a photo iS from my garden and I'd have to wait till they go out. It's a 6 foot fence so I'd need to stand on something. No way to do that discreetly. It's actually gone quiet now for the last 10 minutes so not sure if they've brought it in or it's just given up crying.

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moreslackthanslick · 01/11/2016 13:00

A poor little dog like that needs cuddles. This is awful.

NavyandWhite · 01/11/2016 13:04

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JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 13:08

Well I'd say it'll be left out again before long so the council will probably be hearing from me again soon.

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Daisymclazy · 01/11/2016 13:14

Could a complete stranger/friend, walk past their garden and take some pics or video?

PoisonousSmurf · 01/11/2016 13:15

Get yourself one of those 'selfie sticks'. Then you can film over the fence, stealth style.

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PoisonousSmurf · 01/11/2016 13:19

Makes me so sad for these dogs. I've never had a dog, mainly because it's never the 'right time' to get one. Everything has to be right for me to have one. When I was younger, work meant I wouldn't have time for it, then when I had young kids, still the wrong time. Now the kids are teenagers and I'm working part time (only 4 hours a day), I feel that it's the right time finally to get an adult rescue dog.
But then would it be fair on my elderly cats? AAArghh! Feels like it will never be the right time.

ShmooBooMoo · 01/11/2016 13:20

Useless bastards. Thank God there are good people like you who look out for animals. The selfie stick suggested by Poisonous sounds like a great idea. Daisy's idea is great too. Please keep us updated. And, thanks for trying to do something for the little pup.

JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 14:17

OH selfie stick! Good idea. DS has one already so can try it.

There isnt really a way anyone would be randomly walking past their garden as it is the end of the row and a dead end. The person would literally have to walk to their garden then turn and walk back past my house and out of the estate. It would be really obvious.

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MuffinMad · 01/11/2016 16:24

We have neighbours with a little dog that whines and cries all day long,rain,hail or shine.
We have never actually seen it, but our window cleaner tells us it's a little jack russell.
DH has never seen it in the park or when he's out with our dog.
I just don't understand people who get a dog (or a cat) and then just leave it outside? What is the point?
Our cat and dog are members of our family. We love them and want to take care of them.

When we hear that poor little dog cry it's heartbreaking. All he's wanting is some attention.
So sad. Sad

HelenaDove · 01/11/2016 16:32

This thread is heartbreaking. These poor animals. Sad Sad

HelenaDove · 01/11/2016 16:34

Joffrey your post at 11.56 has made me cry. How could they?

WHAT UTTER UTTER CUNTS!

JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 16:47

I think I've worked out what is happening. When the dog went quiet earlier, the wife came home about 15 minutes later. Dog has been in ever since. I haven't really noticed a pattern before now but I've been in and out of the house a lot over the weekend and yesterday. Will keep an eye to see if a pattern forms but I wouldn't put it past this asshole to chuck it outside when she is not there.

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JoffreyBaratheon · 01/11/2016 17:01

Oh sorry, Helena, I didn't mean it to upset anyone - the gods know it's haunted me enough, since it happened. I'm trying not to think too hard about OP's neighbour's pup, must admit. I'd feel better if I could offer anyone else some pragmatic advice to help one other pup, somewhere. But all I could offer was 'Film it'. Which seems inadequate.

I would give anything to name and shame my neighbours - and take the consequences just to know that it was out there - and expose whoever it was sold them the new pup. My kids saw on FB - they have the pup as their banner and another pic or two up of it and it looks so incredibly sad, in every single shot that I keep wondering why no-one is challenging them or asking why it looks so traumatised. (I know it's not rescue as I heard her loudly opining outside that she wasn't having "any of that rescue shit" when she got a new dog).

My other neighbour was in the bath when it happened but he said if he'd seen it he would literally have gone round there and beat the shit out of them (and he would, too). It feels like we're waiting to capture something but of course that is like waiting for someone to hurt the poor pup. Yet the RSPCA told me that is any future pup's only hope.

At least pup in OP's case is outside and there is a chance someone down the street might be able to film it on their phone.

Think I'm ringing the council tomorrow to complain about the woman calling my son a "Nosy little shit" - but of course, the council won't do anythng even though it breaks their tenancy agreement (not to be abusive in the garden). She's seen my 14 year old trying to film her abusing the dog now, so will probably keep it even more indoors (it seems only to be allowed out briefly). Sorry for rambling.

I will always post on threads like this if I see them - just to out the RSPCA. (And the council, come to that, who could have banned them from having another dog after the first one died, given the concerns as recent tenants can only have pets with permission).

HelenaDove · 01/11/2016 17:27

Oh please dont apologise. Thanks I just love animals and hate to see them suffer.

I had to have my gorgeous cat PTS ten days ago so am super sensitive.

JenLindleyShitMom · 01/11/2016 17:31

Thanks helena

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NeepNeepNeep · 01/11/2016 17:44

You could go down a different route and report them, anonymously, to environmental health as a noise nuisance (barking dog). If you had a record of typical times and duration of barking that would help.

JoffreyBaratheon · 02/11/2016 11:42

Helena, sorry about your cat. We said goodbye to our ancient moggy at the start of the year (She was 21!) I miss her every day and always will - no more cats for us as the dog we have now is a JRT cross!

I think these things are hard to understand, for those of us - fortunately, the majority of people - who have loved and lost much beloved pets, who meant so much to us. That anyone could mistreat any animal... But especially in a case like the OP describes where a puppy that has only just been taken from its mum and its litter, so already will be stressed out, is being treated like that. In the 1960s, people still kept dogs outside on chains or had them live, some of the year (not this time of year) in a kennel. But people have seen that as inhumane for a long time now so there's no excuse.

Just been up to check on my mutt. She's snoring, in my bed, under the covers with her head poking out... My kids often say that she doesn't know she's born, compared to the poor dog(s) next door. I do keep thinking of its littermates, presumably with 'normal' people and why that poor pup drew the short straw in life...

On the positive side, I just rang the council (still getting my head round it yesterday) and they will look into it. Even if the council and RSPCA don't give a stuff about animal welfare, unless faced with incontrovertible proof, the council might at least have to take it seriously that an adult screamed "Nosy little shit!" at my 14 year old, for standing in the window of his own room.

FATEdestiny · 02/11/2016 12:05

I wouldn't put it past this asshole to chuck it outside when she is not there.

Any chance they might have a dog flap?

When our pup was small if she wasn't fast asleep when I'm out (I'm a SAHM so we aren't talking long periods of time) she would go out the dog flap and bark at random things in the garden. Neighbours told me about this, I had no idea she was doing it. She never did this when someone was home and had free acess to plenty of space and interesting things to play with inside and out.

But if home alone, i suspect she would go into the garden to look for me . Then she would just bark non-stop at nothing in particular until I got back. A form of seperation anxiety I guess. I solved it by locking the dog flap when I went out, she was calmer when she couldn't go out.

This would offer a non-neglectful reason for the barking if it's intermittent.

Nicola19 · 02/11/2016 12:46

Haven't read the whole thread but the 'noise disturbance' factor is the way to go with the Dog Warden at the council. It sounds like he/ she is not going to do anything about the welfare but if you reported/ monitored the crying and whining then they would have to go round to speak to the owners or send a letter and try to educate them and limit the problem. I had success with this method.

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