To want to punch my neighbour!?!?

[FruitCider]

Obviously I wouldn't... but I'm sat here so angry!

Back story....
I live in a block of flats, each communal hallway leads to 6 flats, 2 on each floor.

The household across from us was previously a working couple, were lovely, very respectful and quiet. They sold up a year ago, and the property was empty until 2 weeks ago.

A lady and her 13 year old granddaughter moved in, they are privately renting from what I gather. They are VERY NOISY. Nearly every evening when my 4 year old child is going to go to bed they have had a stream of visitors in and out, shouting and shrieking in the hall way and in their flat, banging, crashing etc.

The noise has been so bad I have had to go in the hall way/knock on their door and ask them to be quiet 6 times in 2 weeks. My child is exhausted. Their usual bedtime is 6pm, it's now gone 7 and the neighbours are showing no sign of being quiet any time soon. They have slammed the front door 5 times in the last 20 minutes! My child is miserable, crying all day at nursery. She is now frightened to go to sleep because of the noise.

Today I have come home to find my front door covered in hundreds of stickers. One with a symbol on it that says "adigas" over my door number, the rest of the door is covered from top to bottom.

My child's bedroom is right next to the hallway, we cannot swap the bedrooms around as the box room is too small to even fit a full length bed in there.

It's taking all of my willpower to stop myself from banging on my neighbours door and telling them to shut the fuck up! Would it be unreasonable for me to swear at her? And what the hell do I do about my child getting some sleep?!?!?

I'm dreading it when I have to do nights. I could cry at the thought!

If you look through the land registry, you will be able to find out who the owner of the flat is. I think there is a small charge for this (less than a tenner).

Maybe noise cancelling headphones? (If you can afford wireless headphones so much the better)
But it's just thoughtless selfish and petty behaviour. Hope you can get it sorted soon OP.

I would put your child to bed in your bed and transition later in the evening. Not ideal but a short term solution until you can move/get them to shut up...

Cherry is right OP. It is part of the leasehold conditions, certainly in LA properties, to give your current address to the LA if you rent out your property. I can't see it would be any different with HA property.

I hope the 13 year old has removed the stickers and you've let the grandmother know you're at your wits end? What did they say?

Definitely keep a diary log of what is going on and when. You can complain to your local council's environmental health department. The type of excessive noise that you are talking about isn't acceptable at any time of the day. It doesn't just have to be after 11pm.

Regarding white noise apps, Rain Rain is very good and free. I hope she manages some sleep.

I think in the first instance (probably due to the fact you were used to the quiet couple), you were unreasonable to expect them to be quiet at 6 o'clock in the evening.

I genuinely had no idea some kids even go to bed that early, let alone at 4yrs old?? There is nothing wrong with them having visitors coming in and out this early, but if they really are making a ridiculous amount of noise then you're right to complain, although remember one person's ridiculous can be another person's normal.

However the sticker thing is way out of order. It sounds as though they now see you as 'that neighbour' and seem intent on winding you up.

Do any of your other neighbours find them too noisy? If so, can they back you up in your complaining?

Please don't call the police for stickers!! I know this isn't nice for you but that's hardly a productive use of police time!

Following with interest. We also have this type of neighbour. Incredibly frustrating

I have left the stickers on the door. I didn't knock on their door tonight as I'm too angry. Every time I go round (when I'm calm), the grandmother is v apologetic but just doesn't take it on board. I will however be knocking on her door tomorrow night when I get back from work at 20:45. I don't want to send my partner round as a man might be more intimidating for her? And I don't want to come across as intimidating. But I think I definitely need to be more assertive. My child is asleep now thank goodness. Noise continues. I've had a bath and I'm in my dressing gown, I'm far too angry to be reasonable if I try and communicate with her tonight so going to leave it until another day!

There should be a council noise abatement team and anti social behaviour team. You could phone them for advice.

Make sure you take photos of the stickers.

You need to nip this in the bud or they will deliberately go out of their way to keep winding you up for the duration of the tenancy. I would start talking to your landlord and their landlord as others have suggested, the noise people at the council, and I would ring 101 if there is any more vandalism (like the stickers were).

Tell your landlord about the damage to the door.
If you can get to their leasing agent, ask if a soft close door mechanism can be fitted on their door to minimise the slamming.
If you can rearrange your dds furniture so her bed isn't against the externall wall. Covering the wall with book shelves, wardrobes etc helps absorb noise, or if there is no room, decorate it with duvets! They will act as sound muffling, too.

Quick question, The household across from us was previously a working couple, were lovely, very respectful and quiet. They sold up a year ago, and the property was empty until 2 weeks ago.
What does the fact they work have anything to do with it? :S
Anyhow, Complain to your HA. They should be able to point you in the right direction

What does the fact they work have anything to do with it? :S

They were out 8-6, meaning I could sleep during the day without noise nuisance! Very different demographic to a retired lady who bangs around all day and evening.

Fair enough, I was wondering if I should point out that the shit heads in my block all work at least 30hrs a week plus.
D:
sigh

As far as the stickers are concerned maybe have a word with the neighbours but also take photos and report to HA in case there is any damage to door when stickers are removed.

Noise
If you haven't already I think the first step is for you to speak to your neighbours. Be as calm and polite as possible - maybe try during the daytime rather than when the problems are actually happening. They may not realise how loud the noise comes through, for example if they have lived in a house before. Also would they know how early your DC goes to bed. There might need to be some give and take eg noise later at weekends. My worry about going straight to the landlord would be antagonising the neighbours. Maybe a next step.

The following is from Citizens Advice website
"Noise

Dealing with noisy neighbours

As a first step, you should talk to your neighbour making the noise and ask them to reduce the noise. If the noise is not reduced and your neighbour is a tenant, it may be worth contacting your neighbour’s landlord. If the problem persists it is useful to keep a record/diary of the disturbances which can be used as evidence in any future action.

Local authorities (local councils in Northern Ireland) have extensive powers to deal with noise nuisances. You can ask the Environmental Health Officer (EHO) to investigate the noise. They are able to measure the level of noise and to give an expert opinion on how it rates as a noise nuisance. Local authorities have powers to seize noise-making equipment.

If the EHO considers there is a noise nuisance and has been unable to resolve the matter by discussion, the authority can then serve a notice on the person causing the noise, or on the owner or occupier of the property. If the person causing the noise does not comply with the notice, the local authority can prosecute them. The local authority can also apply for an injunction.

If you are unhappy about the service you have received from the local authority or from your landlord, you may want to contact an Ombudsman for help."

www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/problems-where-you-live/neighbour-disputes/#h-common-neighbour-disputes

Cocklodger no don't worry, the woman who lives above me is a single parent to a 6 year old child and not currently working, she is a dream neighbour! I obviously hear the child running around sometimes, but that's normal household noise which I expect

I've photographed the door extensively, as I have the step in the communal hallway which has been broken!!! (Yes, the step has a huge part missing now, goodness knows how). I'm also thinking of getting a recording app on my phone and leaving it just outside my daughters bedroom on the evenings I am at home so I have some actual evidence about how bad the noise is!

RE stickers on the door
Tell the HA because isn't that damaging HA property?

That sounds awful and I agree that perhaps a quiet friendly word might help.

I think 6pm bedtime is too early for a 4 year old and think it is reasonable for neighbours to make a certain amount of noise at 6pm.

In our house 6pm is one of the noisiest times of the day with me coming home from work and DC in from work/college and everyone trying to get dinner around 6ish. Perhaps you could make bedtime a bit later.

Not really, the child has to get up at 6am to go nursery and needs 12 hours sleep!