To ask what you think about global warming?

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After seeing comments on other threads , I'm wondering, what do most people think?

Are you worried about man-made climate change?

Are you trying to change any of your behaviour because of it?

Or are you not concerned?

Beg as said above the progression of warming is NOT linear. The last two years have seen record temperatures. The planet is not cooling.

And that link "isglobalcoolingathing" is total crap, what a crank!

I worry about it. I find it strange that people talk on here and irl about holidays that involve flying without ever mentioning the environmental impact. I'm not saying people should never go on holiday though.

I do modify my transport/diet/consumption but agree it's probably not enough.

One burger takes the equivalent water of 2 months of showers to produce apparently. Animal agriculture is the biggest culprit (more than transport even) I am veggie but am trying to cut down dairy and eggs too- if people stopped eating so much meat it would make the biggest difference of all

And I think the changes are as much about disrupting weather systems as linear warning- altering the jet stream for example. The result is more extreme weather events especially in places which haven't had them before

Honestly, I think it's such an insurmountable disaster in waiting, I try not to think about it and the hideous legacy my own DCs and future DGC will inherit. Like others I do what I can in my own small way, I know I'm far from perfect, and mostly it is pissing into the wind. It's too late to stop the juggernaut now.

So apart from going vegan, what can we do? Anything?!?

Mumbo we can write to our politicians, as well as big companies and ask them about their policies/future plans wrt climate change.

I know that doesn't seem like very much. But people power is amazing - look at what happened with Shell and the Arctic drilling.

Yes, we can all talk about it, worry out loud and make some noise. Make a politicians understand that they are failing us and our children.

I'm concerned, but I don't think going vegan is the answer. Vegetarian possibly.

Many vegan staples e.g. quinoa are grown abroad (South America) and imported, massively increasing carbon dioxide emissions. Also, whilst crops are obviously better for reducing carbon dioxide (through photosynthesis) because they are less calorie dense than animal products, you need to eat more of them, which uses more agricultural space and resources.

I'm afraid it doesn't bother me at all. It's not something that is going to affect my children or their children or their children.

And yes, that probably makes me selfish, I know that. But nothing I can do will make a difference. If the damage is all man-made (and that has never been conclusively decided) then the damage was done years before I was even born, and was done by businesses/corporations and not single people.

The biggest thing we can all do is TALK about it to each other and stop this collective head burying.

We're all fiddling while Rome burns.

We need stronger leadership, but unfortunately our governments are under the impression that we don't care, so they are lead by public opinion to continue down the path we're on of giving us more and more useless crap to placate us. Too many vested interests.

We need to speak up and demand they tackle this with behaviour changing laws and policies for individuals and business alike.

Very worried, but have still spent my nearly-half-century of life driving about, buying stuff from overseas and enjoying hot baths, just feeling guilty while I do it. Currently working on making changes (solar panels, contemplating swopping to an electric car, buying local food) and have always bought most stuff second hand, but can't quite pluck up the courage to tell my mum we won't be flying with her to go on holiday.

Dallas, you're very naive and have not been paying attention. The effects are already with us. In our lifetimes and our children's lifetimes we will see the effects.

Nah, I'm alright thanks. No effects so far . Don't worry, I'm not a twat. I'll apologise to you if you are right.

No effects here?

Why do you think there are huge amounts of refugees?

Refugees don't affect me or mine, and in any case it is my belief that we have a global refugee crisis due to war, not global warming.

And those wars are caused many factors, but a contributing one is climate change.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/syria/11446093/Syrias-civil-war-linked-to-global-warming.html
Beggars belief that you think that the refugee crisis doesn't directly effect you and yours, especially whilst we are in the midst of this Brexit situation.

To make it simple - climate change equals drought, famine, flood. equals displaced populations fleeing death. equals migration across countries. equals increasing political and social tensions in the areas they settle. When added to existing conditions of unstable regimes, existing terrorist factions. equals war . Equals more migration across continents. equals more political and social consequences in other countries. equals political events like Brexit.

I'm scared of it all, of the life my DD and her children may have. I feel helpless as although we do all the normal things (reduce, reuse, recycle) and try to eat vegan one day a week I can't see how it's going to have any effect.
The earth will be fine. Humanity is probably fucked though. Along with a lot of the other species alive right now.

What's the top 10 list of things to not do or reduce?

I suspect I do some of them

1. Use public transport
2. Don't fly
3. Don't have children
4. Buy fewer things?
5. Eat mostly vegetarian (3 times a month for meat probably as dh is totally veggie and I eat with him mostly)

Other things I wouldn't do well on, have a tumble dryer/TV/ etc

Anyone know what the list is?

Lots of people do care but I suspect a LOT more people will care when either the refugees or the water is lapping at their front door.

It doesn't affect me. We live in an area with hardly any refugees. We have no issues with doctors/dentists/all the usual bollocks blamed on refugees.

Brexit? Well I can't do anything about that. Just need to get on with it. It will make things better, or it will make things worse. Me not using a tumble dryer won't help either way

Wars? Done my bit, helped where I could, accepted what I couldn't change. I believe (and in my experience) that most wars are caused by religion - I don't have one, so can be dispassionate.

Floods? Don't live on a flood plain or in any danger of flooding, ever.

Maybe Global Warming is the worst thing ever? I don't know, but I can't bring myself to care. I care about other stuff, GW isn't even on my radar. I don't actually think there is anything we can do about it, the World will survive, it did before and it will again. With us? Without us? Whatever happens I'll be long dead, as will my kids/grandkids/ggkids.

So there's no point in worrying about the inevitable. I 'prep' but for the here and now, not the hundreds of years time.

And I think Dallas is one of those people, and so am I.

Dallas, you won't be long dead. Neither will your children and grandchildren. The predictions are now that it will be in our life times, the next 20-50 years. The effects of global warming are already with us and will continue to intensify

That's your belief OP. Not mine. I am as certain as I can be that I'll be long dead. And if the floods ever lap at my door we'll everyone else in the region will be long dead - I live at the top of a hill!

I'm not knocking you, do whatever you think will help if that is what you want to do. But don't be surprised/annoyed or whatever if other people don't agree with you. I do what I have to - recycle etc but that's only because the council won't take my waste if I don't .

I just dont care. I have more pressing concerns.

It's sadly not a belief dallas .

So do many of you echo Dallas's belief that it's just a matter of opinion, if it is true it won't affect me and so I don't care?