To think we're on the brink of WW3?

[TellMeStraight]

If the US and Russia become at war with each other, can we possibly stay out of it?

What if Donald Trump is president when it all kicks off?

Should I buy a gun? Or build a shelter? Or stock up on tins?

I am genuinely frightened.

[legotits]

No shit.

If someone makes a nuclear strike, teeny tiny organic one even, then the fuck wits with the old style nukes will press their button too.

It will be too late.

[SusanneLinder]

PS..Russians have been sending planes over Scottish airspace for 2 years and nobody cared. A warship in the English channel, there's a huge kerfuffle and WW3 is imminent. Seriously, calm the fuck down

[KitKats28]

legotits quite a few people at the beginning of the thread are taking the piss. Telling the OP she needs help, saying she's a troll or got a screw loose, the PA "ahh bless".

Can no one post anything on here anymore that doesn't lead to bitching and questioning of mental health?!

[Bananabread123]

....and the new nuclear weapons that are hugely damaging but not as bad as Hiroshima.

There are tactical warheads that are more limited in power, but the thermonuclear bombs in their arsenal would be far more powerful than Hiroshima I'm afraid.

[SailingThroughTime]

Definitely don't find it funny.
I don't understand how Trump is even in the race tbh. Whatever were they thinking?
Still - what with Brexit and BJ being Foreign Secretary, we're fine ones to judge
Trump seems to be a very different animal from Raygun though. Far more dangerous.

[SusanneLinder]

I agree, if anyone is going to start WW3 , it's Trump.

[DistanceCall]

The current probability of Trump winning the election:

projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

This is a guy who has got it spectacularly right in previous elections (and plenty of other stuff).

[SailingThroughTime]

Michelle Obama your country needs you.

[Bananabread123]

And IF the worst happened people would just cope and deal with it like they did with wars of the past.

You do realise that in a full nuclear exchange many times more people would die on day one than in the whole of WWII.... WWIII wouldn't be a step up from WWII, it would take us back to the Stone Age, literally. I'm not worried about it as I don't think it would ever get to that but we mustn't minimise how utterly cataclysmic it would be were it to come to it.

[Pluto30]

KitKats When you say you're going to buy a gun so that you can shoot yourself and your children when there's no real threat of war, I'm going to assume you need mental help.

[ClaudiaJean2016]

I think WW3 started in the Middle East after 9/11. It's already happening. If humans survive another 100+ years people are going to call now WW3. I.e, the 'war on terror'.

I don't believe we will ever have a nuclear war.

[HappyCamel]

Anyone who thinks Trump can't win the election isn't living in the US. I'm in the Southern States and it feels distinctly possible.

[Mummyoflittledragon]

No ww3. The war ships coming through has been planned for months.

[Pluto30]

I think most people think Clinton will win, but almost everyone seems to agree that the margin will almost be negligible. She's not going to have a landscape victory.

[RubbishMantra]

It wasn't "When the wind blows" that did me in (although I found it incredibly sad and moving). It was a BBC dramatization of what would happen in the event of a nuclear war, and following fallout. A family holes up in their cellar, which they had proofed against nuclear attack. Didn't sleep properly for months after watching that. I always was a little worry-head.

I remember sitting in the rec. hall at boarding school, and sobbing with some friends whilst listening to "Seasons in the sun", because we thought the world was about to end. Christ knows how we got our hands, or even knew about a record made around a decade previously. (pre-internet obvs.)

On the upside, I do have a trap door cellar, but would need some sort of air filtration system. And lots and lots of cat food for my 2 felines. And what would I do with the soiled cat litter? Perhaps it could be converted into energy of some kind...

See, told you I was a worry-head.

It's all very well for the willy wavers/sabre rattlers to put the shits up us mere mortals, when they have cozy, lamb-skin lined bunkers full of gin and cat food.

[bibbitybobbityyhat]

God I must be living in a parallel universe. I was 18 in 1980 and I have never seen any kind of public information film about what to do in the event of a nuclear war. The 80s for me was all about University and hedonism and a genuine fear of Aids. I don't remember my parents being bowed by worries about all the terrible atrocities in the world as I am now. Mind you, they lived through the Cuban missile crisis when I was a newborn so probably any worries after that seemed tame in comparison.

[Dozer]

"There was nearly nuclear war in the 80s and it didn't happen, and things don't seem so bad now [unless, for example, you're in the middle east, africa, ukraine] so there's nothing to worry about"

[WinchesterWoman]

Yes I think things are worrying. Clinton has always been very hawkish and her erstwhile (Obama's) administration and the CFR has been ramping up tensions in the service of 'common enemy ' propaganda. Also happening in Europe partly through ineptitude and partly through 'common enemy' pPR again. War is a money maker - leaving aside MAD it does not mean ruination for all. Putin benefits from war talk as a nationalistic distraction from a troubled economy. We have Iran as well as Syria to worry about. I still think a dirty bomb is more likely.

[WinchesterWoman]

Well yes - they do have bunkers lined with kitten fur - and the great untalked about problem is population - and along with the crazy environmental view that the world is better of without people - there is less incentive now to avoid what leaders might imagine could be a 'limited conflict'. Wouldn't blame Londoners for cashing in their assets.

[intheknickersoftime]

Someone earlier in the thread mentioned North Korea. They are clearly on their way to developing viable nuclear weapons. The world seems a crazy confusing place at the moment with lots of instability in the middle East and Ukraine. I have no answers but I worry. The situation in Iraq is heartbreaking. All those people displaced from Mosul.

[PikachuSayBoo]

I think there's much more extensive media these days than there was in the 80s. So everything seems worse because there's constant, detailed reporting.

[WinchesterWoman]

Whoever posted the pilfer link, thank you. Superb link.

[WinchesterWoman]

Pilger link I mean

[WinchesterWoman]

Actually John Pilger notes how scanty the accurate coverage is. Interesting.

[mollie123]

Iived through the 60s - now that was scary. The problem is now so much MSM (not to mention social media - where the hard of thinking get their news) is available to everyone.