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FeralBeryl · 2016-10-14T00:42:14+00:00

*What is your/ partner's career or job? * Not a TAAT more a TIBAT (inspired by a thread) Someone has a monthly ^take home pay^ of £11k Not going to lie, I fully intend to suddenly obtain the necessary qualifications overnight for whatever it is. [wink] sure there'll be an online course.... I know there will have been a great deal of sacrifice, no work home balance etc. I'm not wanting to judge at all-I'm enthralled Please.

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 20:58

Propertywidow - you're a good example of how all wealth is relative. We're well off, but your lifestyle is clearly out of our budget. It sounds lovely though

Bobochic indeed it all takes a huge amount of organisation, and I'm also not great at having people in my personal space, especially when they're not doing a great job. I find I can't stop myself just taking over and doing it myself, which rather defeats the point.

I'd pay any amount of money to find a decent ironing service - mine is OK, but not brilliant. I loathe ironing, my absolute worst nightmare of a household chore.

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 21:00

namechanged - Brian's are very important. Brian is our facilities manager in the London office, and the whole place would grind to a halt very quickly without him

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 21:01

Oh, rogue apostrophe there, apologies. Bad punctuation is also a bugbear of mine.

Writing all of this down, I realise that I am extremely pedantic about an awful lot of things. I'm really quite easy-going to spend time around, honest!

PropertyWidow · 19/10/2016 21:03

Queen, swings and roundabouts. I was extremely ill early on, still have issues and am not expected to make old bones. Part of the reason we try to enjoy life and live it the way we do.

QueenJuggler · 19/10/2016 21:08

I am very sorry to hear that, "PropertyWidow". I would do the same in those circumstances. I hope your lifestyle brings you much joy.

OhTheRoses · 19/10/2016 21:14

Yes, illness puts everything in perspective

Bobochic · 19/10/2016 21:17

QueenJuggler - our ironing is done by our local (across the street) dry cleaners. It's very straightforward and the ironing people are trained professionals. I think that's a big city thing, though.

Bobochic · 19/10/2016 21:20

PropertyWidow - in Paris FT housekeepers definitely do laundry and ironing in house. It's well known that Filipina housekeepers would rather iron than do almost any other task as they can talk on their mobiles at the same time! Unlike most other housekeeping tasks!

FreeButtonBee · 19/10/2016 21:21

PropertyWidow jelly babies? I'm not there any longer but it was an excellent place to start out and never looks bad on the cv!

PropertyWidow · 19/10/2016 21:28

That made me smile, I hadn't thought about those for years! Looks amazing on the cv but too many 'interesting' individuals for me, I had some strange experiences there.

BeautifulMaudOHara · 19/10/2016 21:47

Budget yes, ability to get on with people is really important IME

OhTheRoses · 19/10/2016 22:04

Yes. Being agreeable is helpful. Which I am in RL. Not necessarily on MNet. I have been described often in RL as having "presence". I know not how because often inside I am like jelly!

GetAHaircutCarl · 19/10/2016 22:11

Our housekeeper does laundry and ironing.

Obviously we do some too. But she does the majority.

nanechangedforthis16 · 19/10/2016 22:35

Ha! I loved the jelly babies!

And the fruitcakes..!

OhTheRoses · 19/10/2016 22:36

I do the laundry. Cleaner does the ironing. Must be second tier.

Like another poster, we do a lot of opera. I'm convinced I'm tone deaf but I read up a bit, dh talks about the music and I compliment and make sure dh pours drinks.

EuroCarpediem · 20/10/2016 06:28

Working abroad in an internstional company and dealing with cross border HR issues. Not working crazy hours either.

Got a 2.1 from an old Poly in HR / Business. Worked in financial services for a couple of years before moving to my company.

Have worked there for 15 years and have seen salary grow.

Monthly net income is over 11k.
Am a single parent so that is my salary alone.

I feel very privileged and lucky.

EuroCarpediem · 20/10/2016 06:30

I have a lady who helps in the house one day a week / cleaning and ironing.

Plus a gardening firm which comes a few times a year to help keep it under control.

Bruce02 · 20/10/2016 06:44

to those of you who are earning 80K +, how much would you say your personality and ability to gel or get on well with people has helped you in your career?

I think it's important. Very important. But not something that came easy to me. I could be agreeable but found myself put up upon and ended up feeling used. Would always say 'yes' and do my best. But ended up juggling too much and failing. Or I would get on with people but feel unable to speak up if I disagreed our of fear of them not liking me. I spent the first few years of my career terribly unhappy.

The important part in my job is getting on with people but also it's knowing when to put that to the side. There are times to be agreeable, get on with people and say 'yes, I'll take that on' and there are times to say 'no'.

It's difficult to do that and not cause further problems. Since I have learnt to balance it, my career took off.

StrumpersPlunkett · 20/10/2016 06:54

Public relations for "interesting" people but they very much get their pound of flesh

FreeButtonBee · 20/10/2016 09:29

I think it's important. Very important. But not something that came easy to me. I could be agreeable but found myself put up upon and ended up feeling used. Would always say 'yes' and do my best. But ended up juggling too much and failing. Or I would get on with people but feel unable to speak up if I disagreed our of fear of them not liking me. I spent the first few years of my career terribly unhappy.

The important part in my job is getting on with people but also it's knowing when to put that to the side. There are times to be agreeable, get on with people and say 'yes, I'll take that on' and there are times to say 'no'.

It's difficult to do that and not cause further problems. Since I have learnt to balance it, my career took off.

Yes to all of this. I now challenge my inner primary school a lot of the time when people are taking the piss and give them a stern 'no'.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 20/10/2016 12:10

I think a related skill to getting on with people is an ability to read people. It really helps you pick your battles if you can guage by a person's reaction what really matters to them. I remember going into a negotiation and the way a particular person came in and placed their own personal bound copy of one of the documents on the table told me straight away that they had a personal investment /sense of ownership over it which meant any attempt to alter it would have to be done carefully otherwise he would just stonewall. ( I was right)

minipie · 20/10/2016 12:21

to those of you who are earning 80K +, how much would you say your personality and ability to gel or get on well with people has helped you in your career?

Yes, personality is very important, though getting on with people is only one aspect. In my job I'd say the most important character traits (other than intellectual ability) are:

Confidence - the ability to sound like you know what you're talking about (to colleagues and clients)
Stamina - to get through long hours and sometimes boring tasks (esp when junior)
Ability to get on with people - at least to the extent of not rubbing them up the wrong way

I think (1) and (2) are, unfortunately, more key to success than (3). I know several successful senior people in my field (law) whose interpersonal skills leave a lot to be desired, though they can be charming to clients of course. Perhaps they were nicer when they were still climbing the ladder...

Statelychangers · 20/10/2016 12:38

Dh has a colleague who is an absolutely brilliant problem solver but he pisses off clients and colleagues with his very direct, honest approach, he has improved since he has recognised his limitations and that took a long time to sink in but despite his brilliance his personality is career limiting. Another of Dh's colleagues was also brilliant, only spoke to people when he wanted something - people really didn't like him - but he got a brilliant position as a market analyst for a bank on about £0.5million a year plus bonus 8 years ago - must be double that now. Dh got on well with both these guys, despite most people struggling with them, he doesn't take stuff personally.

OhTheRoses · 20/10/2016 13:35

DH is quiet and rather self effacing. He has the knack of getting on with people who ever they are. The important people respect him because he is very bright and an acknowledged expert. The support staff like his football knowledge.

Articles have said things like don't let xx's quiet and unassuming demeanour mask his skill or capacity to destroy an argument. Not being too exact because don't want to out myself.

ComfortingKormaBalls · 20/10/2016 13:35

Euro My DD is looking at HR....would you recommend it as a career now?