To feel like it IS the end of the world - Brexit

[lottieandmia]

Every day I feel more anxious about what's going on right now - employers and schools having to declare how many people were not born in the U.K.

I feel as if this is only the beginning. I have a very severely disabled child and I am scared her rights will be taken away.

Every day I'm on the edge of tears. I desperately didn't want this to happen and I so shocked at how it has all played out :(

Bit of black humour to cheer us all up - Didn't take Dilly Keane long to make a song about it!

Yanbu op. The plans for brexit have already has a direct negative impact on my dp's job. The economy is clearly going to suffer and that means more austerity. I just hope against hope that the government will see that leaving the EU is not in the country's best interests.

Yes, YABU.

The UK existed and was better off fine before the EU was formed and it joined, and there are hundreds of other developed, stable countries currently managing just fine not being part of the EU. It's just fear mongering, nothing more.

It's a period of adjustment, but it's not the end of the bloody world.

But seriously Lottie - i have a lot of trust in the British people - as a nation I believe we on balance do the right thing even if our government doesn't always get it right. And a lot of the time it is all media hype and hubris. It will all come out right in the wash. That's what I keep telling myself anyway

I think maybe I need to delete Facebook. Every time I log in one of my friends has posted that 'first they came for the Jews' etc poem and stuff like this.

I really would seriously consider doing that. The hype and panic is so unhelpful.

I don't think there's any specific reason to think Teresa May will be harsher in policy towards our disabled DC than Cameron/Osborne/IDS were. She might actually back pedal on disability policy as part of her 'listening to Brits' positioning. The specifics of Brexit itself will become clearer soon. Please try not to panic in the meanwhile.

Hi OP. I agree with you and share your fears. I am now living abroad and due to return to the UK next year, and we are seriously thinking our options.

Unfortunately, I think the economy will keep deteriorating. It is obvious that the government will not be able to retain access to the single market, given that EU countries will not compromise on limits to freedom of movement. And the pound will continue falling.... I do not think it is fear mongering..... People that says that nothing bad has happened yet therefore things will be fine - i am amazed at that way of thinking. The markets will react soon once it is clear that all the Leave promises cannot be met (now that the government has promised to trigger article 50 on March next year). But I will stop here. Just wanted to say that you are not alone and not unreasonable at all.

"Tough shit it is happpening . Stop fucking whining about it, and try and be positive."
Brilliant, what insight.

"The UK existed and was better off fine before the EU was formed and it joined, and there are hundreds of other developed, stable countries currently managing just fine not being part of the EU. It's just fear mongering, nothing more. "
Those were different times. Our property was built on exploiting our colonies. The economic landscape today is rather different.

So much ignorance, yet again, from leavers

prosperity, not property

YABU. Feeling anxious is awful, and not always rational, and some people online like to hype things up, so spending too much time on Facebook (or threads like the May=Hitler one) really isn't a good idea if you're already feeling this way.

There are some nasty comments on both sides in this thread.

It won't be as bad as some people are saying it'll be. Ordinary people - Leavers and Remainers - still have care and compassion for people like your disabled DD, and there are still lots of good, principled people in this country who will stand up for everyone's rights. Try to remember that side of things, too.

(I suppose leave voters knew what leave "meant" with as much certainly as remainers knew what policies the EU would unveil in the next 5/10+ years.*

Crystal balls all round please!

Exactly

I was and probably still am a reluctant remainer, but I can honestly say if we had not of joined I would certainly not be wanting to join the EU. The EU is not some utopia, the far right is increasing throughout Europe way before Brexit. Free movement is not working and many EU countries economies are also tanking.

Made me think of this picture

Let's be positive because
Hard Brexit will cost Treasury up to £66bn a year, ministers are told
www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/11/hard-brexit-treasury-66bn-eu-single-market

Agree with Blue. In all the Brexit panic, people seem to have forgotten that the EU is bloated, corrupt, undemocratic and prone to making decisions which are not always in the public interest.
Personally I was ashamed of the way Greece was treated - there was definitely a two tier membership system going on there, which seems to fly in the face of the core notion of Europe being one entity and stronger as a unit.
I think people need to remember that the EU was not particularly responsive to the notion of change/improvement from within. There were noises about Turkey being given membership - that has gone a bit quieter now but was on the table pre the vote.
I am not the most politically well informed person in the whole world (hard to know what to believe when so many politicians cannot be trusted to tell the truth). But it seems a good idea to me that countries should be able to control their own borders etc. That doesn't necessarily mean keeping people out, but being able to say yes or no according to the country's own requirements in terms of need and resources.

Yanbu, OP. It's really shit. We are being railroaded into a hard brexit on the basis of a 48:52 vote. I don't believe the ballot paper said "do you want to give David Davis free reign to screw the economy, without parliamentary approval: Y/N?".

We've been singing 'always look on the bright side of life' a lot recently....

It is bewildering why so many people are seeing the predictions of how much Brexit will cost as accurate, yet both sides of the Brexit debate undermined and dismissed the figures presented by the "other side" before the referendum.

Have "experts" suddenly become more reliable in the last few months? Because neither side accurately predicted the immediate aftermath of a Leave vote - how can we be so sure about these latest figures?