to wonder if this is really happening? parents are being asked to confirm if their kids are British born.

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A few messages popped up on social media today by parents whose school asked them to confirm if the child in question is foreign born. One friend said this was being done by all schools today.
I don't have kids and am an EU national.
I have been disappointed by the referendum result but have adopted a "Wait and see" approach.
Yesterday's announcements of companies having to list foreign employees coupled with today's rumours is really freaking me out.

Have you been asked today to confirm your child's nationality by their school? Aibu to be fucking terrified?

And country of birth does not tell you whether the child was born to two British parents who were on holiday/temporarily working overseas at the time. It's a slightly weird question, tbh.

Frame you CAN refuse. If the school bugs you just link it to section 5.3.4 of the census information document:

'Schools may also use the following codes:
• ‘refused’ – where the parent or guardian has refused to provide the information requested
• ‘not yet obtained’ - where the data has not been obtained by census day
• ‘not known’ - this is only to be used where a guardian or adoptive parent has
taken care of the child and this information is not able to be accessed'

I just wondered how those plans are going?

Me too. I said at the time that if a single one of the people I saw on FB squawking about emigrating has actually done it within five years I'll be gobsmacked. Not heard a peep about emigration from anyone since the initial flurry of hysteria, funnily enough.

And yes I was, and still am, pro-Remain.

The censuses also collects (new to this year's census) 'proficiency in English' and 'nationality' not only country of birth. Note that none of these have been recorded in the census in previous years.

It's not scaremonging to want some reassurance that date like this will NOT be used in any ways that it is not intended to.

We know by experience (think the DNA stuff with the police, listing people for being extremists that now also contains the name of people doing peaceful demonstration to protect the environment etc...) that this sort of 'list' is abused by the politics and then used for very different purposes.
Why will it be different this time?

The plans are going fine, thank you very much for asking.

Besides some children ahve two or three citizenship. What are going to do with those? Asking them to put just one like they do some 'language spoken at home'??

Space unicorn, yes it's funny isn't it.

Hahaha bloody haha.

I think people worry that deportations may eventually occur because of people like Liam Fox saying that the status of EU nationals is one of the main "cards" in Brexit negotiations, and that the right to remain isn't guaranteed. Then Amber Rudd hops up and says that we need to "be clear about the proportion of their workforce which is international" so that we can force the hiring of more Brits. To be honest, if I were living in a foreign country and heard government ministers saying those sorts of things, there would be part of me that was worried too, wouldn't you?

Billy the EU has NOTHING to do with the U.K. Government asking for data on race etc...

Some countries like France has a law saying that it is ILLEGAL to collect that sort of information (left over from the WWII and very string fear that that sort of information can be used the wrong way).
So no way that the EU will asked for that.

The EU isn't responsible for all the things going on the UK you know. British politicians are just as able to think for themselves and take decisions (some good and some bad, as any politician)

Also no one should be being asked to show birth certs or passports. Completely inappropriate (I'm a school data manager). If you don't want to give the information it's fine, it's not compulsory and your children's school should not be pretending that it is.

Britain has a strong history of having no issue at all about deporting immigrants. The latest one was thanks to TM immigration system that means British people have been forced to leave the country to be able to stay with their family.

So yes it's easy to see why non British people are worried about that isn't it??
I think that British people should be worried too TBH.

Space unicorn, yes it's funny isn't it.

Yes, I find wry amusement in unsubstantiated bluster followed by a distinct lack of action, which is what I have observed from the majority of people who were definitely getting on the next plane out of here.

People's fears are so hilarious.

How Very British of you.

My children were both picked on at school in September, with other kids asking them when they were going to get out of the country and how come they were still here. They are 7 and 10. Hilarious.

It's been on my DS school since he joined in reception and they also ask the child's home language. This is because they have a majority of kids with EAL and also a lot of children coming in from abroad. They have to know this because there is an international unit in the school and they have to know who will need it and who doesn't. There are also dual language TA's and the resources need planning so each child gets what they need.

Not something that has happened since Brexit, in fact I don't think anything has changed as a result of that at least at the school.

Also no one should be being asked to show birth certs or passports. Completely inappropriate (I'm a school data manager).

So in your LA it is possible to register at school in Yr R or Yr 7 (or any other year) without showing a BC?!

Why the racism Blue? Strange way to make a point protesting racism.

Xenophobia, I mean.

My children were both picked on at school in September, with other kids asking them when they were going to get out of the country and how come they were still here. They are 7 and 10. Hilarious.

It's something of a broad (and unsubstantiated) conclusion that people who are not concerned about filling in a child's nationality on a form would consequently find schoolyard abuse of children 'hilarious'.

My DDs were both told to fuck off back home in the days immediately after the referendum. The school came down like a tonne of bricks and it stopped, but with that sort of attitude coming out of the woodwork I ended up not feeling very cooperative about this particular item of data collection.

I think it's quite telling that some schools are implying that it is compulsory to provide this data whereas ours emphatically made it plain that it is not.

The majority of my DS school have migrant backgrounds so I guess it would be very unlikely to happen anybody telling anybody to leave the country...

The Daily Mail are going to send their illiterate junior hacks over here for their daily poke around, conclude Remainers are all paranoid loons and have a field day using this thread for an article.

And your anti-British remarks will have pride of place Blue. Well done you.

Tbh I think it would be easier if we asked all "foreign borns" to wear something which identifies them as such. How about an armband?

Sorry...this,is all too close to 1930s Germany to me.

I am not helping the Govt collect their figures. They can go fuck themselves.

I have friends born elsewhere and living here. I put their wellbeing above the Govts need to massage the ego of xenophobic fuckwits.

ScaredFuture You can enter more than one nationality on the school information system so that isn't a problem.

Sorry...this,is all too close to 1930s Germany to me

That certainly seems to be the narrative that many are reciting just now.