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to wonder if this is really happening? parents are being asked to confirm if their kids are British born.

344 replies

someonestolemynick · 06/10/2016 13:04

A few messages popped up on social media today by parents whose school asked them to confirm if the child in question is foreign born. One friend said this was being done by all schools today.
I don't have kids and am an EU national.
I have been disappointed by the referendum result but have adopted a "Wait and see" approach.
Yesterday's announcements of companies having to list foreign employees coupled with today's rumours is really freaking me out.

Have you been asked today to confirm your child's nationality by their school? Aibu to be fucking terrified?

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atticusfinchatemybaby · 07/10/2016 18:21

The form made it sound compulsory but I didn't send it back. Glad I'm not the only one who thought this whole thing was utterly shameful. If they ask again I'll send them in wearing gold stars sewn on their clothes ffs.

Glittered · 07/10/2016 18:50

Yes I had to do one for my dd the other day she is in reception

WeatherwaxOrOgg · 07/10/2016 18:58

DotForShort
It's appalling. But not surprising

What's appalling about it?

It's not to do with Brexit at all - in fact ALL countries with developed systems ask for this type of information.

Should we just be able to go to say, America, Australia etc and enrol our British children into their schools with no questions asked then?

What an overreaction.

AnnaleeP · 07/10/2016 19:02

Registering at a school is different, I imagine you would have to show some sort of proof then. But for collecting this information, no you shouldn't be asked for ID.

wasonthelist · 07/10/2016 19:06

The information they get from my DDs school will be utter bollocks. They sent us an e-mail giving us two days to let them know if DD was born outside the UK, otherwise they'd assume UK born.

instantly · 07/10/2016 19:14

What if you're British but born outside the uk? Or dual nationality?

scaryteacher · 07/10/2016 19:20

JellyBelli Do you not see that this is a fuss over nothing? I had to explain to the local Gemeente every year that my ds went to the international school, and not a local school, and demonstrate that he was at sixth form in UK when he started year 12, with proof from the sixth form college, because we live in Belgium.

Data collection in UK is nothing in comparison with some European countries, so I can't see what all the fuss is about quite frankly.

Mummybear1988 · 07/10/2016 19:21

We've always asked for nationalities at my school. Means we can track which ethnic groups are performing well/need more support against local authority results. I wouldn't be scared by it

wasonthelist · 07/10/2016 19:23

scaryteacher Thanks for that - I had wondered what the rest of Europe asks about expat Brit kids.

VilootShesCute · 07/10/2016 19:23

Yadnbu. We got asked. Didn't send form back.

Karenhibbert2 · 07/10/2016 19:24

I have not had this from the school? My daughter only started in reception this year so that could be why, I had to provide her birth certificate for this.

Beeziekn33ze · 07/10/2016 20:26

Remind me, what country am I living in?😧

Notmuchtosay1 · 07/10/2016 20:36

I fill in a form at primary school every year. Asking to confirm name, date of birth, school transport, school dinners, nationality etc. Have done for many years. It's not new.

notaflyingmonkey · 07/10/2016 20:46

I refused to fill it out, and told the school that I found it sinister.

Shockers · 07/10/2016 21:12

It has always been on school admittance forms. You are asked nationality and religion. My eldest is 29 and both questions were asked on his school admittance forms.

StressedOne · 07/10/2016 21:14

I am ignoring the request. My dd is British born, but her father is not, she has dual nationality. And it really annoys us that they never have her ethnicity on ANY forms. I don't care if they want to collect this data, just won't give it, we never give info on censuses. And answering some points - you don't need to show the passport, just the nationality of the child as shown on the passport.

TheBannistersOfLife · 07/10/2016 21:28

DD's school is buggered then given that a third of her Reception class is Polish & there's always been a high population of Italians too!

ScaredFuture99 · 07/10/2016 21:53

scary is the issue not that they are checking that your ds IS going to school rather than checking on you as a foreigner??
They would be doing that in France.

ScaredFuture99 · 07/10/2016 21:54

I would be refusing the fill that form in TBH, the same way that I've always refused to fill ethnicity and religion.

As for languages, seen there isn't space in the system for two languages....

ScaredFuture99 · 07/10/2016 21:55

Weather FYI, in France it is ILLEGAL to ask any question about race or religion.
They wouldn't ask about your nationally either, not in schools.

So no, not ALL developed countries ask for that sort of information.

scaryteacher · 07/10/2016 22:13

scared They knew damn well that he was going to the International School. I had to answer a letter about his sixth form provision with proof, and that was because we sent him back to the UK.

In Belgium they want to know your nationality for the ID cards, driving licences have to be registered with them, and even within Belgium society is divided very firmly along language lines.

Masketti · 07/10/2016 22:16

Haven't RTFT but this was decided about 4 years ago (exaggeratation but you get what I mean) pre Brexit so it's just a coincidence with the timing.

MsGus · 07/10/2016 22:22

Asking about nationality is nothing new. 99.9% of official forms ask that question.

Much ado about nothing.

Iwantawhippet · 07/10/2016 22:27

When DC joined the library they asked for gender identity and sexual preferences. DC was 6 months old!

NameChange10001 · 07/10/2016 22:28

I'm bloody terrified. I have a foreign sounding name but I was born the UK, and so were my parents and 3 of my grandparents. My paternal grandfather was brought here as a baby in the early 1900s but he was born an Eastern European Jewish immigrant. I was named after his mother and I never got married so I have my original surname. Putting them together makes my name seem foreign (think something like Shira Horowitz, it really isn't though!)
This is how it starts. Marking people down as 'other'. 'Not one of us'.