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Cash-strapped boss bought child a designer handbag but can't afford me!

69 replies

Ubertasha2 · 28/09/2016 17:15

Hiya,

Love mumsnet and wanted a quick vent, pls bear with!

So I am a nanny for a family who claim to be broke but (imho) have vast amounts of cash to spend on the dc's whims and desires.

No problem you might say, none of my business you might say (and I agree up to a point), but when I have been told there is not enough money to pay me properly and then the mum buys the kids a ridiculous amount of expensive gifts, it is difficult to say nothing. I work- have always worked hard- am never paid overtime or extra when I come in early, I end up buying stuff for kids when kitty runs out and when I used my car (I pretend I haven't brought it these days to avoid using it for work) I never got petrol money and reimbursed for wear and tear etc etc.

The latest is that I have been given my notice (a month) because the family is "broke", but on Friday I discovered that the eldest child (nearly 12yo) has been bought a designer bag which cost a whole month of my wages.

I am really upset because I was underpaid for so long (and it was insinuated that I was greedy when I politely asked for a raise in line with local nanny rates a while back), I have never been allowed a contract, the family refused to do nanny tax (which I found quite stressful to sort myself), and whenever a day of my work is taken from me by them (over bank hols, when parents decide to take the day off on a whim or work from home, and often at short notice), MY WAGES ARE DOCKED!!!!

Next week the mum thinks she "may have a couple of days off and may take the kids to a musical" but she doesn't know yet. Of course. But of course, I will have two days docked from my wages. But this is ok, right? My bills won't need paying, will they?

The designer bag chapter (as friends have called it) is the latest in a long line of "we are broke and cannot pay you more money" but, then "look what mummy bought me, Tash!" Yes, the bag was paid for by the mother but it feels that all the money I've been denied from my hard work (not money I fancy or feel entitled to) has, in a way, been squirrelled away to pay for this ridiculous item. Friends are urging me to joking say something like "no wonder you can't afford me; you have designer bags to pay for!", or "perhaps we could discuss the shortfall of my wages now, please?" as I have (sadly) made notes of how much I have been underpaid.

Sorry for this rant- I know many people in this world are suffering- proper suffering, but I hate any injustice of any sort and really want to say something but don't know how or if it'd be appropriate in any way?

I also can't imagine anyone treating a hardworking member of staff like this- underpay them, lie about being broke and then paying thousands for a bag for a (very badly behaved) child. I just don't get it!

OP posts:
Sunshineonacloudyday · 28/09/2016 17:48

What was you doing there for so long. If they are not paying you the going rate per hour how was you paying you're bills. You can't allow that to happen to you again you're a mug if you do.

HalloToJasonIsaacs · 28/09/2016 17:49

They sound like absolute shits but I'm guessing that you are sadly dependent on them for a reference? So resist all urges to carry out the tempting suggestions in this thread, get a reference, get a new job with non-bastards, get through your notice period. Maybe then key their car write them a letter expressing your feelings. Or just leave it to karma.

BuntyFigglesworthSpiffington · 28/09/2016 17:50

If you take anything away from this OP it should be to not let people treat you like a mug.

DixieWishbone · 28/09/2016 17:51

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2kids2dogsnosense · 28/09/2016 17:56

Dixie
^The DD has just turned 12?

Well there's your answer - she's the next cheap childcare provider. They won't even have to pay her.^

Doubt it, Dixie - they won't want their precious genetic inheritance acting like a skinny . . .

SantasLittleMonkeyButler · 28/09/2016 17:59

Ah, an au pair.

Modern slavery in the wrong hands.

Ubertasha2 · 28/09/2016 18:06

I have been called a mug by many recently- am inclined to agree! Friends have told me that they have done me a favour by letting me go- I said every Friday that I'd leave only to grumpily get up on a Monday and turn up with a bright (little bit fake, possibly) smile!

The reference thing is probably something I need to get, then leave. I'd like to think that it'd be a decent one as I've worked hard, have cared for the kids when the parents gallivant off the the Caribbean etc etc. Kind of want to warn any au pair or future nanny, but I am v outspoken and would probably get into trouble!

OP posts:
Ubertasha2 · 28/09/2016 18:07
  • to the Caribbean!
OP posts:
Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 28/09/2016 18:10

Surely they can't get away with this. They must have to adhere to employment laws.

Good decision about leaving. They're the King and Queen of piss takers.

Iliveinalighthousewiththeghost · 28/09/2016 18:12

Oh I thought it was your decision to go, sorry. Still your best off out of there.

morningtoncrescent62 · 28/09/2016 18:13

They sound vile, OP. And I quite understand that when you need a job it's not easy to stand up for your rights or just walk away - yes, they've been taking advantage of you but that doesn't make you a mug. They're in the wrong, not you. Smile sweetly and get the reference first, and if you must say something, wait until you've got a new job with decent people. Good luck, and I hope your next employer treats you as you deserve to be treated.

RebelandaStunner · 28/09/2016 18:15

They can't do this.
Send them a letter with a bill for what they owe you and a mention that you will take them to the small claims court if they do not send it to you by a certain date
I did this under similar circumstances many years ago and got a cheque a few days later.
Then find another position with a contract.

HeyOverHere · 28/09/2016 18:20

Paying you requires cash; getting child a DC only requires debt. Therefore, the bag is easy, and paying you is hard.

If you're salaried, I don't think she can dock your wages for forcing you to take days off. I would look into that for future reference, but I hope your next job is with people who treat you WELL and FAIRLY!!

expatinscotland · 28/09/2016 18:24

I'd take them to small claims court. After I got the money, I'd report them to HMRC.

purplefox · 28/09/2016 18:27

They're doing you a favour by giving you notice, it sounds like you would have just continued to put up with being underpaid and treated terribly rather than get another job otherwise.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 28/09/2016 18:30

Exactly what I was going to suggest, expat!

OP - I hope you find decent employers from now on.

specialsubject · 28/09/2016 18:35

no contract? Why go in tomorrow?

be kind and tell them Friday is your last day.

GrumpyInsomniac · 28/09/2016 18:39

Things like bank holidays should usually be covered by your paid holiday entitlement. Have you had any paid holiday at all? Please make sure they don't stiff you on your final pay by failing to pay you any holiday owed.

ArcheryAnnie · 28/09/2016 18:45

That's horrible, OP - and I am pretty sure they are breaking the law if they aren't paying NI and tax, or giving you a contract.

Here's hoping your next employers won't be so awful.

user1471521762 · 28/09/2016 18:55

I run a nanny agency and this sort of behaviour is appalling but i am afraid we hear it all the time. Just so you know - nannies are rarely self employed and the onus is on the parents (employers) to sort tax and NI in most jobs. The Inland revenue go after them - not the nanny - for any unpaid taxes etc. If you do not have a contract then there is no notice period to serve. Make sure that you get a written reference from them before any arguments start. there are fantastic jobs and employers out there - you are definitely better off out of this one.

Somerville · 28/09/2016 19:00

Report them to HMRC. It's their responsibility to pay your tax and NI. Not yours to sort it. They'all be in trouble, not you.

abbsismyhero · 28/09/2016 19:02

Ask for a written reference before you do anything

Memoires · 28/09/2016 19:10

Work out exactly how much is owed to you, down to the last penny, make out an invoice and present it to them. If they make excuses, suggest you take the bag instead.

Actually, do what expat said.

There must be a nanny site where nannies post satisfaction notes about families, or a family reference site. It seems to me that both nannies and families should provide references.

RaspberryOverloadTheFirst · 28/09/2016 19:24

Only suggest the bag if it actually is worth enough to cover the wages. It might be fake.

TheAntiBoop · 28/09/2016 19:30

Yes report to HMRC. They should have been paying your tax and national insurance contributions. If they have paid you gross and you have paid your tax yourself they will still be liable for the employers NI

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