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AIBU?

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Aibu to ask for my newborn shoot to be edited?

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Kmoggy · 17/09/2016 14:39

I had a newborn shoot done the other day, images are great and I love them all apart from the full length naked pic I want to use my little one has brown scab and placenta clip still on. My partner wants to use this image to blow up into large framed pic but also hates the cord. My photographer says he won't remove it with photoshop as it symbolises how small my baby is but it's horrible and ruins the photo.

The shoot wasn't exactly cheap and cost £250 so Aibu to go back and ask again??

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NerrSnerr · 17/09/2016 16:28

I think YABU. Where will he get the belly button from? You wanted pictures of your baby and that's what you got. The clip is just part of him at that time.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 17/09/2016 16:37

Blimey, are you hanging the blown up framed naked picture on your wall?

and will you take it down when he is 15 and has his mates round?

BreakfastAtSquiffanys · 17/09/2016 16:37

Could he Photoshop something over it? Like a soft toy lying against the baby?

feralgirl · 17/09/2016 16:50

Did you specify that you wanted no cord before you started though? If you get him to photoshop the clip out, you're asking him to do more work after you've agreed a price already.

Perhaps you should ask his hourly rate and offer him the appropriate amount of cash? Or ask for a digital version of the pics and do it yourself if you're not willing to pay the extra?

TheLastHeatwave · 17/09/2016 16:54

Did you ask before the shoot to have one of him full length, naked & not showing the cord?

If not, you're being unreasonable.

If you did & he hasn't done that, then he needs to come back & take more photos.

If he's done it but you don't like the other photos as much, then it's really up to you to pay for the changes you want made.

If you insist on using this photo are you going to be happy with him having another child's tummy button? I wouldn't be. I'd choose another one, accept the cord tie on this one or ask for a few more photos to be taken (at my cost) to get the shot I wanted.

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Kmoggy · 17/09/2016 16:55

Man some folk are a**holes on here huh? I'm simply asking a question based on my overall preference, not asking for people to be snotty/rude or arrogant. Keyboard warriors are out in force on Mumsnet! The clip could be photoshopped out and the scab toned down a bit, if not removed!

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Lazyafternoon · 17/09/2016 16:55

A bit odd to want to photoshop your newborn baby photo. Saying the way a photo of your newborn looks is horrible is a bit sad. You took the baby to the photoshoot with the placenta clip on, so its in the photos. That's the way it is.

Also, like other people have said - Photoshop isn't a fix all. I agree that although a photographer might be excellent at taking photos, they might not use Photoshop! Whether on principle or just not having the skill YABU to expect the photographer to do something that wasn't discussed in advance.

For something like that I wouldn't expect the photographer to photoshop it out and can fully understand why they would say no. Taking another photo yes. Editing an existing photo like that no.

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Kmoggy · 17/09/2016 16:58

Actually all professional pics are edited using photoshop so no not weird! It's not like I'm asking for his face to be changed!

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panad317 · 17/09/2016 17:00

The photographer who did DD's newborn shoot doesn't do newborn shoots on babies older than 10 days old...her cord actually fell off during the shoot!
So to the posters asking OP why she took him with a cord intact in the first place, maybe this photographer has the same rule.

hardtopinpoint · 17/09/2016 17:00

Actually that's exactly what it's like.

You're asking for an entire part of him to be removed.

hardtopinpoint · 17/09/2016 17:02

You want a photographer to photoshop your newborn, and to do it for free, and we're the arseholes?

Mind boggles.

user1473282350 · 17/09/2016 17:08

I'm a photographer and 250 for a newborn shoot is very reasonable if it is done by a professional.

If you were definitely wanting him to edit it you should offer to pay him for his time (unless he said that the work would include major edits or processing post shoot).

Did he say he would give you prints or high resolution photographs for that price? Because if it is the latter - he may agree to you asking someone else to edit it out. I agree with everyone else though, it would look weird.

user1473282350 · 17/09/2016 17:10

Actually all professional pics are edited using photoshop so no not weird

No, no they are not. I explicitly say I will not edit photographs I have taken - I may adjust the lighting on some photographs (for instance if I've done a product shoot in a location that uses strip lighting), but I do not, and will not add or remove things to and from the photographs.

Gazelda · 17/09/2016 17:11

I'd choose a different pic to blow up.

mistletoe1 · 17/09/2016 17:13

As someone who uses photoshop in their work everyday, the clip removal sounds like a complex amendment. Blemishes and small marks are easier. Whilst photographers do use photoshop to edit their work, not all are excellent retouchers, if you see what I mean. It might be beyond their skill scope.

beepbeeprichie · 17/09/2016 17:16

OP YNBU. It's not an unreasonable amount for a quality photographer. And it's not unreasonable to ask. We got photos taken of my baby around the same age, and I asked for the same thing as the cord was close to falling off so very brown, with a big yellow clip. For people saying why get the photo taken before it fell off- in my experience good newborn photographers are booked up way in advance. You can't just call up on the day. Some people on here are just mean.

OutDamnedWind · 17/09/2016 17:16

OP I've really not seen anyone being an arsehole, I think that's pretty unjustified.

When you paid the photographer did the agreement include any editing that may be required? If not I would certainly expect that you would need to pay more.

Mrsmummyof1 · 17/09/2016 17:31

OP Yanbu. Ignore the haters. We got a newborn shoot done. The photographer was excellent and very professional. She said she would be happy generally to edit out anything that would be there for less than 2 weeks, but wouldn't say remove a birthmark for instance. Following that line of thinking, she would have removed the cord. Having said that, I don't know how easy these things are to do, but hopefully a prosseional could do this for you.

crayfish · 17/09/2016 17:31

We had a newborn shoot and our photographer offers to do lots of photoshop, she removed a logo from DHs shirt and offered to remove the flakey skin on DS feet etc. We opted for no photoshop on DS at all, I wanted him photographed as he was, but she was happy to do it and I bet she would have done the clip if DS still had it.

Maybe he doesn't know how? Is he inexperienced?

nooka · 17/09/2016 17:38

You aren't unreasonable to ask and the photographer isn't unreasonable to say no. You aren't asking for a small thing so there are implications in terms of the photographers time, but it sounds as if they have more of a philosophical objection. Different photographers will have different thoughts on Photoshopping I think it's something you need to discuss in advance.

MistressMerryWeather · 17/09/2016 17:38

Actually that's exactly what it's like. You're asking for an entire part of him to be removed.

Don't be silly, the cord is going to fall off anyway. His face isn't.

It's really nothing to get sentimental about.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 17/09/2016 17:53

Most school photographers offer to remove all the spots or acne from your child's face for an extra £5.
Just because we have the photoshop technology, doesn't mean we have to use it.

The photographer may not be able to superimpose something over the cord clip without it looking artificial, particularly if the image is enlarged.

Perhaps people looking at the picture will wonder what else has been
airbrushed.

ILostItInTheEarlyNineties · 17/09/2016 17:56

I don't see anyone being an arrogant arsehole by the way.

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Kmoggy · 17/09/2016 18:04

Lostintheearlyninties- I guess 2 weeks postnatal has a tendency to make you a bit touchy but a few people have been harsh in how they say things.. There's a nice way to say things and then there's the ones who want Mock me for my choice in photo/ the cost I paid or to try insinuate that I'm a terrible person whos trying to change the way my child looks! Again... I'm sure it's all about how you say things and how others perceive that 😐

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RhiWrites · 17/09/2016 18:11

You must have a slamming body to want to put a full size naked photo of yourself in your living room!

I think you might be able to get the photographer to remove the clip but not the cord or mute the colour so it doesn't stand out so much.

But it sounds as though you've picked a serious artist so unless there's a clause in your contract about edits you might just have to accept he won't do it.

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