To think most of the people bemoaning grammar schools are hypocrites

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That's just it's really I don't mind people who have the courage of there conviction but I have no trux with champagne socialists

Like jc or Diane Abbott or Tristan hunt

Who's children all went or will be going to grammar or private

Even bloody James o Brian moaning about grammars when he rountinly says he wouldn't rule out private for his girls 😕

Totally agree about immigration.

London is also full of opportunity, kids can see a future and some kind of result at the end of it all. There are pockets of poverty but they are right next to affluent areas, there are still the disenfranchised but I think because of the proximity to so many opportunities there may be slightly less.

OP why do you keep calling JC a champagne socialist? As several PPs have pointed out, he split with his wife because she wanted to send their son to grammar school and he didn't. Also, the bit if Islington he's MP for isn't exactly posh - it's a fairly run down area that's traditionally been home to working class voters. Gentrification is slowly creeping in but it's still not Tony Blair's Islington.

She does so, mainly because she knows little about Corbyn, or Islington, or London.

Its a good insult thrown by badly educated Tories.

Lots of schadenfreude after May's display at the ballot box today, if Corbyn is so poor, how come it was a rout?

I was thinking that this policy is so bad that even Jeremy Corbyn can muster an effective opposition against it.

I note Theresa May couldn't name any education professionals in favour of it, while the list against grows ever longer.

We're post expert remember, every opinion is equally valid.

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Bobochic Wed 14-Sep-16 07:43:40

"It is a laudable aim to lower inequality, but not by preventing able DC from reaching their full potential in order to protect the egos of the less able."

Ok, so the secondary school experience where my ds, a late developer with chronic health issues, worked his way up from bottom sets to top sets was all about "protecting his ego"? Not about giving him an education that made the most of his developing ability?

Cory - grammar supporters believe that children can fairly easily be divided into two groups: "high ability" and "not high ability". "High ability" children can be identified by the fact that they attain highly, all the time, in everything, and are usually very conscientious about school work. Almost all of them believe their children are "high ability".

My children have experienced the bitter sweet nature of grammar schools/secondary modern, at first i was quite contented as both girls passed comfortably .
DS failed , perhaps not totally surprisingly.

At first i was not really bothered about it especially during year 7 but the difference in the life chances, perceptions of pupils in grammar /modern two years down the line are sickening . The school DS goes to is no inner city struggling school either.