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AIBU to have left a note? Parking dispute

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Pinkbabe1 · 09/09/2016 13:03

Diagram attached. Neighbour basically has always parked their car in a strip of land right outside our house which is not a parking space. They have a garage but have two cars so park one of them on this strip of land.

We have been tolerant of that and have not complained in the past, despite that they have never asked if it is ok to park right outside our house. They often come back late at night banging their car doors repeatedly which is right by our daughters bedroom and wakes her up. They are also know to have let their visitors park behind them which is infront of my car so I have to ask them to move when I want to go out.

Over the past couple of days they seems to be parking the car further back so that it encroaches on where I reverse my car off my drive (diagram isn't good but it's very tight)

Last night when I returned late they had parked it so far back that I couldn't get on my drive without hitting their car, so had to park on the street. As it was late, I left a note saying:

"hello - didn't want to knock the door as its late but I couldn't get my car on the drive tonight as your car is parked so far back that it's blocking our drive. Please could you park further forward - Thankyou"

When I left for nursery this morning I noticed the note was gone but the car had not been moved. When I returned the car had been parked so far forward it was parked on part of House 2's garden. Said neighbour then appeared from his house saying very sarcastically that I must be a terrible driver if I could not get my car on the drive with his car in that position and the note was not necessary.

AIBU?!

AIBU to have left a note? Parking dispute
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Original poster
Pinkbabe1 · 09/09/2016 14:03

WhatsMyNameNow - I didn't tell him not to park there, hence why I have never complained before. My complaint was that he was parked so far back that he was encroaching on my drive preventing me from getting on it without hitting his car

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WhatsMyNameNow · 09/09/2016 14:03

Also, is your drive definitely your drive? Or do you just have rights of access over it. You really need to check with land registry before saying anything to your neighbours.

BaggyCheeks · 09/09/2016 14:05

More threads should have a diagram Grin

YANBU, there was nothing wrong with your note. Surely any reasonable person would be embarrassed that they had made arse of themselves and apologised, rather than being even more arsey. Does House 1 not mind that he blocks off access to the path behind their garden? Is it needed for putting bins out etc?

Planty18 · 09/09/2016 14:06

Oh no! How rude...goes back to drawing board...although the cement idea I like!

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Pinkbabe1 · 09/09/2016 14:07

Yes definitely our drive, each house has a garage and a drive.

baggy - House 1 is friendly with him so House 1 and neighbour walk over our garden and House 2 garden to get to their properties as they have to walk round his car

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MrsGWay · 09/09/2016 14:12

Do you think that you garden was ever rectangular? From your diagram it looks to me like a previous owner rounded it off to leave their drive easily. If so he is parking on your land.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/09/2016 14:14

Do you think that you garden was ever rectangular

Ooh - I wondered that too!

steppemum · 09/09/2016 14:14

oh, there's a solution, put up a fence roudn your garden.

hmm, trouble is, then he would have to park further back to allow space to walk round!

legotits · 09/09/2016 14:16

I might nominate this for classics.
Excellent parking post OP.

YANBU.
Be a prick back and reverse into his car.
Hard.
probably check it is your land first

Original poster
Pinkbabe1 · 09/09/2016 14:18

That's a good point actually..... I've just phoned the landlord and asked for the deeds after explaining the problem so will what they come back with!!

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44PumpLane · 09/09/2016 14:19

More threads should include diagrams- makes everything so much clearer!

YANBU- you were very polite, even informing neighbour that the point of the note was to be particularly courteous by not ringing their bell late at night. You've not asked them not to park there, simply to park a little further back.

Neighbour sounds like a prick!

44PumpLane · 09/09/2016 14:21

Also...... Could you apply to purchase said bit of Landon order to rectangle off your garden? That would really annoy them!

BaggyCheeks · 09/09/2016 14:21

They have to walk over your garden? That would wind me up every time it happened. I'd go with building a fence/digging a moat or something. But then I am probably unreasonable.

user1473282350 · 09/09/2016 14:24

That part of the driveway is possibly a public right of way / access path due to the path going through the gardens.

In this case, no one should be parking there.

Get the deeds and figure out what you own and what you don't. No point causing an issue if you don't actually own the land IMHO. You may find you are totally in the wrong and it's all owned by someone else, particularly if your garden and driveway aren't fenced.

Justaboy · 09/09/2016 14:24

where is the actual road carriageway on the map?. presume it goes off towards the right ?

Very easy to start a war with the neighbours very very difficult to restore the peace!.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/09/2016 14:25

They have to walk over your garden

Another good point! Your landlord needs to nip that in the bud or there will.in time be an automatic right of access over your property. Spiky bushes?

Jaxhog · 09/09/2016 14:28

Defo worth checking the deeds. But I wonder if he's parking on a path, if people have to walk over your garden to get to their houses? This is trespassing incidentally.

I thought your note was fine. He was probably feeling guilty when he responded to you. I'd ring the bell next time!

NightWanderer · 09/09/2016 14:29

Perhaps you need a motion activated sprinkler for your garden? Wink

Not sure about the parking though. It sounds annoying.

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Pinkbabe1 · 09/09/2016 14:29

Whilst I don't want to cause a row with the neighbours, surely it's not unreasonable to expect to be able to park my car on my drive each night?!

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UptheAnty · 09/09/2016 14:35

So neighbours car is blocking the path to the houses so everyone is walking over your garden - is that correct op?

I would be very surprised if you didn't own that land with rights of access to your neighbors.
I suspect they are taking advantage- at the very least they are being unsociable.

Do they own their properties or are they tenants like you and have they been there longer than you?

Deux · 09/09/2016 14:37

YANBU. He's acting in an inconsiderate manner, even more so that he's tramping over your garden.

I'd be tempted to park where he's parking but far enough forward that he can't park in front of you. Then your visitors can use your space I front of the garage.

Perhaps dig a large hole in the garden, cover with branches and wait for him to fall in. Smile

Great diagram.

Original poster
Pinkbabe1 · 09/09/2016 14:38

UptheAnty - yes that's right.

No they are tenants along with house 1. House 2 owns their house. We have been here the longest out of the three houses.

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PigletJohn · 09/09/2016 14:40

"Deeds" are not used any more. You can get a copy of the Land Registry documents for a few pounds, even for a property you don't own.

www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry

Only use the .gov.uk site as their are fraudsters tricking you into paying them a "fee" with sites of similar names.

PigletJohn · 09/09/2016 14:41

their? there. Not me!

UptheAnty · 09/09/2016 14:45

House no 1 sound quite aggressive. When a neighbour raises a concern quite kindly with you it's not acceptable to react the way they have.
You've not done anything wrong.

it seems that everyone is disrespecting you in order to keep no 1 happy. You need to tackle this. It won't be pleasant but I suspect they will keep pushing acceptable boundaries.