To think tommee tippee products are a bit shit?

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After months of people raising concerns about the tommee tippee steamer blender being unsafe and asking for it to be recalled tommee tippee have finally issued a safety recall. People were finding the blades were chopping bits of plastic off the jug presenting a choking risk due to the plastic ending up in the baby's food. Tommee tippee spent months denying that this could happen and said it was only possible if it was assembled incorrectly. Tommee tippee have now admitted that bits of plastic can break off even when used correctly and have offered replacement jugs and blades with a new design to those affected (notice they didn't offer full refunds as an Automatic right).

Independent Research has also raised concerns about the safety of the perfect prep machine (due to water temperatures and the filtered water) but tommee tippee have failed to respond to those concerns.

Aibu to think tommee tippee products are a bit shit and until they properly address all the concerns they should not be allowed to make any more electrical products?

Ah sorry, those comments about breastfeeding were not mine. I did say that I don't think women breastfeed to avoid making bottles though.

Sterilising the powder first (with boiling water), as far as I know, is advised because of a (fairly) recent occasion of contaminated powder formula leaving a factory and making babies poorly. Formula factories are incredibly sterile-it would be very unlikely you'd get contaminated formula. For years people added it to boiled cooled water and it was fine. Id be stunned if all those babies had been given contaminated formula.

Tommee tippee baby nail scissors are shit. Got a tweezerman baby nail kit after - so much better.

Tommee tippee thermometer is shit. Got a Phillips one after - so much better.

Not going to try anything else tt. All I ever hear from other parents is moans about how shit they are

I've made my babies bottles by filling and boiling the kettle and filling all 6 sterilised bottles for the day in one go and using them throughout the day as needed just adding the powder to the cooled water. My LO is happy to drink his milk at any temperature and he has been having them made this way since he was 2 weeks old when I had to admit defeat at breastfeeding him I just wasn't producing anywhere near enough for him then I started working again and couldn't keep up the expressing as once he discovered the bottle he wouldn't latch on anymore! He has never been poorly in any way and is thriving.

As an aside I hated the bloody expensive and rubbish Tomee tippee bottles they leaked because the teats warped after only a few weeks use!

I'm still using my sterilizer eight years later (jars for jams and pickles), I love it.

I'm also still using my eight year old little lidded food pots, they are so useful, I'm tempted to get some more.

It is feasible that a dishwasher would run hot enough that separate sterilising is unnecessary - mine has a Baby Bottle setting apparently. Handwashing, not so much.

PP was after my time - I would have grabbed it with both hands. I had my own technique for making bottles which didn't bear much resemblence to the absolutely insane, setting you up for failure official method, but it was quite scientific and my dc were never at risk.

I tried 2 TT products- the closer to nature bottles which DD point blank refused to drink from, and the breast pads which did nothing to contain the milk I leaked (I did leak a lot!).

So my experience was not good!

Love my two tt pre prep machines (one upstairs one down). Still unsure on bottles . Too fast flow or new new born but now just new born seems ok. Friend now struggled with dr browns which worked perfect new new stage.

Separate point how do you descale electric sterliser please

Sorry Summer - my comment was directed to allthecarbs, not you.

Seen - I think the issue with filling the bottles and adding powder to cooled water is that the powder itself needs sterilising, so has to have boiling water added

I felt terrible about having to mix feed as we struggled with latch at first and having to give DD a bottle at all was upsetting. When that TT bottle also turned out to be a leaky poorly designed piece of crap it felt like adding insult to injury. DD had no issue with medela bottles and tears, but TT were a bit of a disaster, and very fast flowing even the supposedly newborn ones. TT dummy was horrid and seemed to collect water/gunk inside it so that was quickly chucked. The TT microwave steriliser was also awful - no handles, no slots for breast pump parts (which was what I mostly wanted to sterilise), the avent one was so much better. Won't touch any of their products now as I think they have spend more on advertising and product placement than on development or safety and I simply don't trust them. Although I haven't bought either of them the mouldy sippee cup non spill valve thing and now the blender thing are both really concerning and also indicative of that marketing and promotion being put ahead of actual safety and quality approach. I may live under a rock as I don't know anyone IRL who has a perfect prep machine or who ever considered buying one. I certainly never considered it as to me it just seemed like an expensive bulky kettle and I couldn't see a benefit, only a potential risk (even if that risk was low and theoretical my general distrust of TT meant that to me there was a risk there). That said I was lucky enough not to have to mix feed for long so maybe I'd have felt differently if I ever had to fully FF or something.

I had forgotten about the mouldy valves in the sippy cups, another dangerous TT product. It wasn't that long ago either.

Looks like there was a safety issue with this product too, they said it would be fine unless used incorrectly but there shouldn't be such a huge risk from minor incorrect use.

m.tommeetippee.co.uk/safety-alert/

Obviously if you leave loose wires around your children it's dangerous. It's not really product specific. They've clearly stated if installed correctly it's safe, as with everything with wires that's designed for use with or around children.

The prep machine is a lot more than a bulky kettle. A bottle made in two minutes flat in the middle of the night (or in fact at any time) is a god send.

I bought one and my mum laughed and said well you've wasted money it doesn't take long to make a bottle, then she babysat at my house and used it. Now when she has my lo at her house she asks me to send the pp over too.

Making bottles the official way is a faff. I mean seriously what idiot thinks it's a good idea to leave your baby waiting for 40 minutes for a feed whilst the kettle cools down. The hot shot does exactly what a kettle does.

I bet very very very few people actually make bottles the right way to be honest.

I'd rather have a perfect prep and be doing it 'right' but quicker, than making 4/6 bottles at once on a morning, shoving in fridge and reheating. Or using cold boiled water.

Why don't more people just use the ready to feed baby milk if making a bottle is too much hassle?

notso because it's incredibly expensive? and because if your baby doesn't like fridge cold milk you've still got to warm it up.

Notso

80p for 200ml. About one maybe two feeds

£10 for 900g. About two-four weeks worth of feeds

Big price difference

m.boots.com/h5/cat_hub?path=%2Fen%2FSMA-Extra-Hungry-Infant-Milk-From-Birth-1-Litre_1262733%2F&unCountry=uk

£3 for 1 litre of ready mixed formula.
A 900g tin of powder I believe makes around 5.2 litres of milk so it is a significant price difference but not as huge as stated above. Add in the cost of buying a perfect prep machine, the filters for it and the electricity to run it and the cost difference becomes much less.

Exactly OP. I think you can buy 12 cartons of cow and gate for £7 odd on Amazon. Not as cheap as powdered but the PP isn't as cheap as a kettle. If you stuck to powder in the day it would be what a couple of quid a night. Presumably people plan on feeding their child food at some point which works out much more expensive than formula.

I love my PP machine and my daughter is nearly 6 months and is not ill.

I tried to breast feed but it just didn't happen for us.

I do get a bit annoyed at all the 'breast feeding help groups' etc what if people need help with formula feeding? That can be hard for new mums too.

'Feeding' help groups would be better.

Oh and my friend makes up all her bottles in the morning (not using PP machine)
Her DS seems okay too.

I think most formula companies have help lines you can phone for advice apples.
The only problem with formula feeding I ever seem to hear about is how to make up bottles correctly and tbh when you get so many people saying how they or someone they know does it 'wrong' but their baby is fine I'm not surprised people get confused. Read the packet it tells you how to do it properly.

'Feeding' help groups would be better.

I'm not wanting to start a formula vs breastfeeding debate but I'm not sure that feeding help groups would suit most people. Would you have formula feeders and breast feeders both attending the 'feeding group' at the same time? As a breast feeder who has previously formula fed I feel that the problems that the two groups have are entirely different. A woman doesn't suffer mastitis, cracked nipples, supply problems, latch problems and cluster feeding problems when she is formula feeding and I'm not sure she would feel comfortable discussing those things in front of a group of women who don't like the concept of breastfeeding and don't see why women should be getting their breasts out in public. Of course many formula feeding women couldn't care less how somebody else chooses to feed their baby but there are some women who are a bit sneery and dismissive about breastfeeding (I have several in my family).

I think "feeding" help groups would be great.

I bfed two children. One to 12 months, the other only for three weeks because after her tt snip she never latched again.
I exclusively expressed for three months, have had four bouts of mastitis and am something of an expert on how to bf with inverted nipples.
I also now ff my daughter. I say this as background, because I have a foot in both camps.

More "feeding support" groups would be fab because essentially we're all doing the same thing - feeding our children. And once you get to weaning stage, or when mix feeding is brought into the equation, or exclusive expressing, there's a huge crossover too.

Lots of bf mums seem to think the only problem ff parents could have is making up bottles. That's just not the case. For example, I had a total faff with knowing what to do with DD when she was drinking far more milk than the box recommended,yet didn't seem ready for early weaning. The HV was useless and just told me to wean. A group made up of people who feed their babies in all sorts of different ways would have really helped me then, and would have also helped me more easily navigate the route to ff through our whole tt disaster.

Anyway, sorry to derail thread further.

Breastfeeding help groups are usually run for free by women passionate about helping others to breastfeed. Often they are not subsidised at all by the state and many rely on the goodwill of premises (or cafes looking to make money from mums) to have a location to run from.

As breastfeeding groups often don't get special funds or treatment, nothing is stopping other people from also setting up general feeding groups, but for some reason there doesn't seem to be the same passion.

Exactly OP. I think you can buy 12 cartons of cow and gate for £7 odd on Amazon. Not as cheap as powdered but the PP isn't as cheap as a kettle. If you stuck to powder in the day it would be what a couple of quid a night. Presumably people plan on feeding their child food at some point which works out much more expensive than formula.

12 cartons would last me two days. (If you're talking about the 200ml ones!)

I bought my pp on offer for £60, it's made its money back (by not buying ready made milk) probably twice over by now.

My electric bill hasn't gone up!

Your point about feeing children food at some point is frankly ridiculous.