If you cant drive faster than 30mph on a rural road why visit a rural location

[JustAnotherPoster00]

I live in a rural part of Wales and I'm sick of inconsiderate drivers not pulling over when they clearly have a cue of 15 cars behind them because they're so happy daudling along. I understand if they're nervous that's ok just pull over and let us very frustrated drivers by.

Rant Over

specialsubject same here. Always at the first of three roundabouts. With the same cars they overtook shored up behind them

Just get up ten minutes earlier and stay safe ffs

Thank you clam that got me to actually laugh out loud

Rural Wales huh?

I grew up in rural West Wales where the roads are hairpin bends and narrow and widen infrequently, very often the back roads are single vehicle width only with wider passing places every few hundred yards, or there's a farmers gate if there's a totally aggressive cunt trying to pass you and you think they are going to drive up your arse.

If the road is a C road- which is basically many rural roads in Wales, then cutting speed to no more than 40mph is sensible. The roads are infrequently maintained, often covered in natural debris and are little more than access roads.

Can you tell us what the road is?

We need to check with Google street view if your assessment is correct.

They have as much right to that stretch of road as anyone else. I wouldn't pull over for anyone other than the emergency services.

A470 between Llanrwst and Betws Y Coed

I feel your pain. I used to live in the Norwegian fjords. In the summer, a journey that would take 45 minutes out of season, took about 1 1/4 hours....

45 minutes out of season? Even on the roads in winter? Ok then.

What's even more dangerous are drivers on 70mph roads doing less than 50. I see it regularly on my commute to and from work. And generally it is older drivers.

Perhaps because older drivers generally are more experienced so they are more able to read the road and drive more safely?

Sometimes I get impatient with people when I'm driving so sometimes I'll analyse what I'm doing as I'm going along. Makes me think about if my frustration is warranted. It never is. Just back off

Yes, the trip took 45 minutes out of season. Also on the winter roads. What´s your point?

It's a loverly road, OP. Why would you want to go at 60?

Also, it's only about 5 min on it. Relax.

You can actually get a ticket for driving too slowly, so basically doing like 30 or under on a 50 road. Yes it is a limit not a target but it is still dangerous to be dawdling on a fast moving road, especially a rural one as they have lots of blind corners and people doing 40-50 are likely to run into the back of you.
I agree if they don't feel comfortable then they should pull over and let people past.
I live in a rural place and tourists are terrible for it, it drives me made, they never think that the people that actually live here actually have somewhere to be like work, to serve them. Then they complain because there is a cue or they have to wait because there isn't enough staff because they are being held up by other tourists. Aarrgghhh! Rant over!

People who drive near where I ride terrify me. They hurtle around the bends and inevitably see me go "oh shit" and slam on
There's a blind bend that I can usually hear cars coming around. Few weeks ago my horse stops before it and refuses to budge. Turns out she had heard the car and I hadn't!

Apparently the new pass wide and slow is 30mph and close enough to hit my whip. I've stopped thanking every driver now because I refuse to thank people who speed past me with 6 inches to spare
Given its in the Highway Code I suddenly thought why the fuck am I thanking people who aren't even obeying it?! < and breathe>

All I want is for me, my horse, and all the drivers on the road to come home safely

I live rurally and I'm fed up of people being killed because drivers are driving far too fast for the bends in the road.

My dds best friend was killed by such a wanker of a driver. So no, being stuck behind someone for 15 minutes doesn't bother me.

Oh and that road is a 50mph that I ride on but it's only safe to do 30 on the normal bits and less for the bends. Anyone who takes the bends at 50 is likely to hit a cyclist or horse or end up in a ditch

A470 between Llanrwst and Betws Y Coed

So, a journey of less than 5 miles. What's the fucking rush?

YY I struggle with this (although my road is the A370 between Bristol and Weston-super-Mare). There is nowhere to overtake (windy with straight bits, single lane each way and the couple of straight bits aren't long enough to safely overtake) but it is a perfectly safe road for people to drive at 50/40/30 mph (depending on the speed limit). So why the ever-loving-fuck am I stuck behind people doing 40 the whole way, including through the villages. Or worse - 30 on the 50 bits and then SPEEDING UP to go through the villages?

The road is perfectly safe to drive at the speed limit. I am not suggesting that people throw themselves around twisty-turny-single-track NSL roads they are unfamiliar with at 70 mph but FFS, you can't average speed limits over the length of the journey you're doing.

For such a short road, 15 cars behind only means there's lots of traffic anyway.

And thankfully, to stop the number of wanker drivers, the maximum speed of bits of our local roads which are particularly bendy, are being reduced to 40 and even 30mph. They should do this in other parts of the country.

I also live in a rural part of Wales and I'm heartily sick of people speeding along lanes killing wildlife/pets. I wish drivers would ruddy well slow down and take care, especially from dusk to dawn. An impatient driver shunted into the back of DH recently- thick fog, a herd of wild ponies came out of nowhere, DH had to brake. The driver behind, who'd been far too close, then went into the back of him. Luckily hardly any damage done, but typical of people who value speed over safety. Slow down! Enjoy the view!

I used to live in Llanrwst, it is a fairly straight fast road tbf and it would be dangerous to drive too slow down it, but..... Just go the back way to Betws

The highway code makes it clear holding up long queues of traffic is unacceptable - I seem to remember seven vehicles is the limit beyond which you are supposed to pull over & let it all past.

Nervous drivers are probably too busy peering forwards to check their mirrors.

I also wouldn't class it as rural. Semi rural maybe.

While a speed limit is not a target, you should still be able to keep up reasonably with the flow of traffic and not be unduly hesitant or hinder other drivers. In the driving test, if the speed limit is 60, and the conditions (weather, traffic etc) do not prevent you from doing the speed limit, you are expected to demonstrate that you can competently control the vehicle at that speed on that road. If you are doing 30 or 40 on a road with a 60 mph speed limit and there is no good reason for going that slow, then the examiner can and probably will mark it down as a fault - or even fail you -because he/she will assume that you don't know what the correct speed is for that road, and may also assume that you cannot control the vehicle and are too hesitant. If your speed is so slow as to cause a tailback, then that's a problem.

There are many people who drive recklessly but that is not always down to driving too fast; it's incompetent driving. I've seen plenty dangerous situations caused by drivers who have been driving too slow and have been completely oblivious to what is going on around them. Driving slower doesn't always mean safer. You have to be completely aware of what's going on around you, from the speed limit of the road you are on, the volume of traffic, how it's flowing, what's ahead, what's behind, the weather conditions, whether it's daylight, dark... etc. Assuming that you are safe just because you are driving slower is just as dangerous as driving too fast. Bear in mind you can get stopped by the police and penalised for going too slow as well as too fast.

My partner and I are both petrolheads; we love cars and we love driving. He owns a supercar and has extensive experience of hill-climb racing, which requires exceptional driving skill. He can drive at speed but he is an extremely safe, competent and responsible driver, and I feel much safer in any car he drives then I ever do in my mother's car (who drives very slow and hesitantly); in fact I refuse to get in her car now.