If you cant drive faster than 30mph on a rural road why visit a rural location

[JustAnotherPoster00]

I live in a rural part of Wales and I'm sick of inconsiderate drivers not pulling over when they clearly have a cue of 15 cars behind them because they're so happy daudling along. I understand if they're nervous that's ok just pull over and let us very frustrated drivers by.

Rant Over

I also drive at the speed I deem appropriate. If someone is stuck behind me and there is no opportunity to pull in to let them pass, I slow down so they can, if safe, overtake. If there is no safe opportunity to do that, I am unapologetic - they will have to wait.

anyway OP, talking of rural Wales, watch the way the Cardi farmers drive and copy them....

The reason they drive like that is because they know how lethal the roads can be if you drive like an idiot.

We live in an area with a lot of twisty, turning lanes (all alike!). The speed limit is 50mph but there is no way on this earth it is safe to do over 30mph.
I drive at 30mph with a queue of cars behind me but it's better than ending up in a dry stone wall.

Are you mad? I know the roads around here like the back of my hand, but they are narrow as fuck with hairpin bends and overhanging hedges and verges which make for shit visibility. Oh, and the occasional sheer drop into the sea. Not to mention tractors

By all means come here and try driving fast. The last guy that did that, they were picking bits of him out of the hedges from 2 fields away. It's usually blokes from the city in big fancy cars, who think they can whizz down "quiet country roads"

I think the point the op is trying to make is if a driver sees 15 people stuck behind them they should assume their level of road nervousness is statistically way above average and look for a strategic place to pull over to let the others pass. If there is no such place then it cannot be helped. YANBU

Thank you Guava exactly my point.

So its a 60 road so i'm guessing its a single carriage A-road. Surely pulling over would mean they would need to pull out again which would be dangerous to do at a standing start?

I think it's drivers with attitudes (frustrations) like yours who actually contribute to others to feeling nervous OP. I can see both sides, I'm not above getting annoyed when stuck behind someone going slow BUT you can overtake when safe to do so can't you, and if it's not safe to do so then you can surely understand why someone unfamiliar with those kind of roads is driving below the speed limit. (Not sure I've expressed that very well but I wouldn't be confident driving fast on a country road I didn't know well.

but she said she lived in rural Wales - in that case she would be well used to having to drive slowly behind tractors and horseboxes.

Yeah - it annoys me too. Actually other drivers just annoy me in general - people who sit right up my arse on our country road because I won't speed, people who do 26 mph on a 60 road, people who keep veering into the middle of the road to check if they can overtake etc etc.

it's a speed limit NOT a target - DVLA don't really encourage this in driving tests. If you are directed on to a national speed limit road by an examiner and you don't drive on or close to the limit (weather permitting) you will be failed.

Regardless of whether they're rural roads or urban, the optimum is to drive safely for the area and conditions.

My bug bear is people speeding around our rural roads without any due care for tractors, riders, cyclists or wildlife let alone pedestrians but to be fair the speed limit isn't 60mph. I wouldn't describe roads with a 60mph speed limit as particularly rural for driving purposes.
I hate when people think because roads are out of town that they can bomb along like they're on a race track and no one else is going to be around at all.

Actually, it is an offence to drive too slowly.
www.mylawyer.co.uk/motoring-offences-a-A76047D76550/

I think the key here is whether 30 is way too slowly or not.

What speed would you say it's safer there?

And whether they could safely pull over or not.

No OP that wasn't your point at all

If it's a twisty country road, it's hard enough to find somewhere to pull over. There's about a 12 mile stretch of road here where it is actually impossible, there is nowhere to stop unless you want to sit out over half the road.

Most of these roads were built to accommodate people on foot and the odd horse and cart. Why people suddenly think that shoving tarmac on it means it's 100% safe to hammer down at 60mph I don't know

I am quite often somewhere in a convoy of cars on our main road - there is nowhere to pull in for about four miles . all too often some potential killer pulls out on a blind bend to jump the queue. They are always, repeat always, just in front when we reach the roundabout at the end. They risked killing someone to gain about two seconds.

If a cat is going that slow, why not overtake?

Lweji is right. You can get prosecuted by the police for driving too slowly. It happened to a friend of mine she was doing 30 down a fairly straight country round

Its a trunk road so slightly wider than the normal A roads, plenty of layby's and its a safe road to do 60 on, and to those that are flaming me, no I wasn't up their ass dipping in and out to see if I could overtake just sat back and waited but few opportunities because of the traffic coming the other way, but got increasingly frustrated as it got to be more than 10 cars behind them.

Non intentionally drip feeding sorry

If a cat is going that slow, why not overtake?

round here there are twisty narrow lanes marked at national speed limit when they obviously shouldnt be. Local people ignore it and drive at a sensible speed.

YABVVU. Try driving at 30 over the Kirkstone Pass, the Struggle, or worse, Rhino Pass in Cumbria. To be controversial, I hate the 'local yokels' who zoom up my arse as I'm trying to avoid scraping the stone walls, which lots of others have obviously hit by the amount on the carriageway. Then I look ahead and spy sheep in the road. Maybe I should just do 30 as I'm heading for Brotherswater and run them down. Better slow than dead.

OK, well, if we're being pedantic, it's dawdling, not daudling.

HTH.

Is it a very long road?

Because in all it could just mean a few minutes delay. Nothing major.

If someone is doing 25 or 30mph on a 60mph rural road, I can understand the frustration. Around here though, a lot of people seem to get annoyed with me when I'm doing 50 or 55mph! I have seen some very near misses as a result. A few weeks ago, a driver decided to overtake me and the car in front on the approach to a blind bend. When a car appeared in the other direction, it was only due to the evasive action of the car in front of me (i.e. braking hard) that a head-on collision was avoided. Utter madness.

Bugger! This is not the first time today I've been upstaged autocorrect

YABU. You sound pretty dangerous tbh.

I also live in a rural area with winding roads and was driving in January when the road was still a little icy, so I was doing 30 - 40. Fucking lunatic driving right up behind me getting all het up.

They overtook me and went zooming off. About five bends later there they were on their roof in a farmers yard.

Headless.

HTH.