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AIBU to consider leaving DH over this?

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LeaveorStay · 22/08/2016 20:57

DH has a bladder condition which makes it hard to pass urine. His urethra can spasm and "block" so he can have times where he can't pass urine at all. Often he can be going to the toilet every 10 minutes to try and clear a blockage, he's been hospitalised twice in the last year with the condition.

I was a SAHM for awhile, but DH was offered the opportunity to have the problem fixed by operation, so as he would only get SSP, I got a job to cover nursery fees for our DD and the rest of the bills minus his SSP. I work 3 days in the week and 1 at the weekend, DH is supposed to work 5 days.

I've been working now for 3 months but DH refuses to go back to the consultant to discuss having the operation and his condition is just getting worse.

In the last 3 months he's had 16 sick days, with a further 6 days over weekends when he wouldn't be working taken up by this condition. His work at unaware of what's wrong with him so he lies saying he's got a sickness bug or a cold, which is making the situation a whole lot worse. He doesn't get paid if he's off so I'm picking up the slack and having to work an extra day in the week, I'm also having to call in favours from family and friends with DD (14months) as she needs picking up from nursery two nights a week while I work late plus the extra day I'm picking up she needs to be cared for. It's meaning my mum having to go 5 miles out of her way twice a week to pick DD up from nursery (so an extra 20miles a week) and friends/neighbours having to look after her on the other days. People were happy to help for the 2/3 weeks he'd be on bedrest only after his op, and then for the 4-5 weeks after that before he could return to work I was going to pick up the extra day and nursery were going to have DD and arrange collection and drop off, they currently don't have room for her on the other day a week (the more days she does the cheaper the per day rate is). But this is taking the p out of our friends and family, particularly as I'm not allowed to say what the problem is. I'm fed up.

I can't even leave him with DD for 20 minutes while I pop to the shop as he can't stand still or bend down or do anything to help her, so I either have to take her with me, or make sure she's asleep and there's no chance she'll wake. How is it fair?

I've begged, I've pleaded, and I've written down how I feel. He just says it's worse for him. I know it's an embarrassing problem, particularly as it's generally diagnosed in men in their 60's not their 20's, but I just can't go on like this, I'm making compromise after compromise but he's doing nothing to help himself.

AIBU to give him the ultimatium that he either sorts himself out or I'm leaving?

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DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 22/08/2016 22:40

I don't think it's fair that you should have to lie for him, not on a continuing basis as this has now turned into.

The problem with ultimatums is that you have to be willing to carry out the threat. How willing are you to leave him? In your situation, my ideal outcome would be for him to address his fears and have the operation and continue with medical treatment that enables him to get back to being an equal partner pulling their weight with parenting, finances, and everything else. I'm not sure if the risk of him digging his heels in when confronted with an ultimatum is worth it because then you won't end up with what you want. (unless you're in half a mind to leave him anyway?)

Could you start by having another serious conversation with him and explain that things have to change, that you're no longer willing to lie for him, and that you need him to get better as you need him to help by being a parent and partner?

DecaffCoffeeAndRollupsPlease · 22/08/2016 22:40

I don't think it's fair that you should have to lie for him, not on a continuing basis as this has now turned into.

The problem with ultimatums is that you have to be willing to carry out the threat. How willing are you to leave him? In your situation, my ideal outcome would be for him to address his fears and have the operation and continue with medical treatment that enables him to get back to being an equal partner pulling their weight with parenting, finances, and everything else. I'm not sure if the risk of him digging his heels in when confronted with an ultimatum is worth it because then you won't end up with what you want. (unless you're in half a mind to leave him anyway?)

Could you start by having another serious conversation with him and explain that things have to change, that you're no longer willing to lie for him, and that you need him to get better as you need him to help by being a parent and partner?

LuluJakey1 · 22/08/2016 22:45

What will happen to him if he does not have the operation?

If you threaten you have to be prepared to go through with leaving.

LeaveorStay · 22/08/2016 22:48

Lulujakey the condition will get worse until he's either admitted to hospital and forced to have the op, or if he refuses to go to the hospital (has happened before) then the urinary retention could cause kidney infections/problems which will mean he's in an even worse position

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Topseyt · 22/08/2016 23:02

I would certainly have to tell him that as from now you will no longer be able to keep lying for him because of the potential consequences. You won't go around broadcasting about it, but anyone with a reason to need to know (manager at work, anyone involved in providing additional care for your DD) will be discreetly told why things are as they are because the current situation is unsustainable.

I have some reservations about an ultimatum though can see why you are sorely tempted. I am not the one living with the fallout from this though, and I can imagine I would feel rather differently if I were. It guess it should be a last resort, though again that is easy for me to say.

Does he understand that the longer he leaves this then the more likely an emergency hospital admission becomes? If that happens then the situation could be taken out of his hands. I mean, he may still need to give consent if able, but proper action would be imperative. That would be impressed hard upon him.

To be honest, I am amazed that he can put up with the level of discomfort he must be in!

blankmind · 22/08/2016 23:11

He's being an irrational and selfish idiot letting his fear become such a huge monster that he's willing to risk his family and his own health rather than face it and be cured.

You cannot facilitate his behaviour by doing what you are doing much longer, he needs medical help.

Could you arrange an appointment with the consultant, so he can allay every one of your DH's fears then give him a date for the appointment, so he doesn't have time to be even more ridiculous about it.

I do realise it's fear and anxiety at the root of his problems, but surely he could have help for that as well, a good slap hypnotism, CBT etc.

Topseyt · 22/08/2016 23:23

Does he realise too that problems passing urine like this can cause it to back up and badly damage his kidneys.

Does he fear the corrective surgery more than that? Kidney damage would have serious and life limiting consequences, potentially.

DontMindMe1 · 23/08/2016 00:50

Never was it more appropriate to say he needs to grow a pair of balls and get it sorted.

Fear is no excuse for putting his health and future mobility at risk. Leaving it untreated will only have a knock on effect on every other aspect of his life - like right now. and ultimately damage his relationships - like now.

i've got a sil in her mid twenties who has already lost one kidney - she could have got another decade or so out of it if she'd managed her lifestyle - but she was 'too scared' of this, that and the other and refused medications. in a few years my brother will have to be her full time carer.
is this the future your dh sees for himself?

he needs shaking out of the fear-grip. and perhaps he should take a tip from women who have to navigate 'outside life' despite monthly periods. his employers don't need to know details. all he has to tell them is that he has a medical issue that required surgery and then follow ups every few months. for appointments he can always use annual leave if he's too embarrassed to show his appointment letter as proof for time off. he needs to speak with his HR/Occy health dept, i.e if he needs more loo breaks then they can handle it on a need-to-know basis so he isn't pulled up for it or seen as taking the piss - sorry Grin.

i can empathise with feeling scared and embarrassed - but reality isn't going to go away no matter how much we try to ignore it.

you can always speak to his gp about how you feel OP, he will listen to you even though he can't discuss details. you also do need to confide in someone, you need the support too.

Phineyj · 23/08/2016 07:29

Please do speak to your mum and brother - whatever you decide you will need some help. I'm glad you have people you can confide in.

hettie · 23/08/2016 08:35

Is one of the possible side effects of the op erectile dysfunction? He sounds terrified. Would a few sessions at Relate with a neutral third party be worth trying? Some centred do low/no cost sessions?

Roussette · 23/08/2016 08:55

I'm sorry but he is being incredibly selfish. He can't even stand, or bend down and yet he won't go for an op that has a good chance of sorting this?

If he worked, and you had something like this, you can bet your bottom dollar that you would have already had the op by now.

It sounds to me as if you have begged, pleaded, written to him, you have tried everything and yet is still holding out and won't get help, lying to work, lying to everyone. My sympathy would be running out by now as you are run ragged whilst he just hopes it all goes away (it won't).

Also you have it seems support of some wonderful people (your family, nursery etc) and he is still deluding himself. I would have gone through every hoop possible to help him come to terms with this and then there would be the ultimatum, so whatever you do, I don't blame you.

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