To ask if you're going to buy a tv license if you don't have a tv?

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New law is coming in this September forcing those who watch iplayer on devices to buy a tv license.

I don't have a tv and watch iplayer very rarely...

Should I buy a license?

The Beeb is great.

I have no objection to paying for it.

If you don't watch it, listen to it, read it's news, download from it AT ALL then fine. That's your choice and you shouldn't have to pay.

But if you DO use it, at all, you should pay up.

Simples as the meerkats say.

If you don't have a license but have bought a new set, what do you say at the point of sale?

If you don't have a license you usually make TV Licensing aware via the form on their website. So you'd give your address as normal at the store then go online and tell TV licensing you dont need one

Which reminds me I need to do actually they sent a letter asking me was this still the case a few weeks ago

No I won't be. I'll just find another way to watch bake off.

I don't like the stranglehold the BBC has on many things and how they compete with commercial rivals. I'd shut down most of their website.

You give them your address if you're so inclined, but you don't need a TV licence to purchase a TV. They'll probably send you yet another letter. That's about it.

If you don't watch it, listen to it, read it's news, download from it AT ALL then fine. That's your choice and you shouldn't have to pay.

Except reading the news and listening to the radio (and for the moment, iPlayer) is free and doesn't require a TV licence.

Private idaho. You have made my day. I am on the wrong side of 40 but it would seem I behave like a young person. I never watch live TV or record it, I just stream it, either sky, amazon fire stick or net flix.

My mum in her 70's takes the sunday paper with the weeks TV schedule and highlights the programs she is going to watch; then sits down at 9.00pm on a Tuesday to watch say Coronation st.! I would not have the time to do this. Nor would I want a life style where I didn't do an activity because it was 9pm and my fave show was on.

I also love to watch an entire series back to back.

TheInternetIsForPorn - I'd happily pay a radio licence. They won't let me. They don't offer that facility.

Legally I don't require one as the licence covers television, not radio. It doesn't cover using websites either.

Why would I pay for something I don't use when what I do use is free, legally?

Would you go and pay for a glass of wine in a bar in order to get a glass of tap water, which is free to get - despite the fact that the service and the glass cleaning etc costs money?

If you don't watch it, listen to it, read it's news, download from it AT ALL then fine. That's your choice and you shouldn't have to pay.

But if you DO use it, at all, you should pay up.

But that is just your opinion, not how TV licensing actually works.

What, do you mean you're not sending the BBC vials of virgin blood in the post in lieu of payment for the radio and BBC news websites? That's what I'm doing, it's the least I could do really.

You disgusting THIEVES.

I get my "news" from the Daily Fail website.

Mother Fucking Theresa, me.

Something I don't understand. The last three tv sets I've bought (within the last 10 years) I've been asked for my address at the point of sale in Currys. I always assumed it was cross checked with the license database to ensure you had a license. If you don't have a license but have bought a new set, what do you say at the point of sale? You don't have to tell them your address, they just want it to hound you with their warranty gumf.

We live abroad and I am gutted that we will no longer be able to access BBC content through the iplayer. It's a bit like the nhs - you don't appreciate it until you see what is available in other countries: there is nothing like the BBC. I would be perfectly happy to pay for a licence if it was an option but it's not available outside the UK.

If you pay by direct debit, it's about £12 a month I think. I realise that's a lot for some families, though. I don't mind paying it, though I largely do so for the radio rather than the TV. I rarely watching anything.

We'll stop using iPlayer. We'll still have 4od and amazon TV.

I don't think the money is the point for many people. If you are getting two of more of the monthly streaming service we do Now Netflix and Amazon you are paying more than the monthly tv licence.
Its the content which isn't of interest or at least deemed not worth the price.
I think the beeb has had it's day in it's current incarnation this will just be another nail in the coffin they might be able to scare up some fee's but people will just watch what they want through one of the numerous pirate sites out there. This won't count towards there viewing figures hurting them when it comes to programmes wanting a bigger audience than the bbc has and going to a more popular channel/streaming service.
It will still be legal to watch all4 (good comedy back catalogue) and 5od(Who knows?) for free their streaming doesn't come under this new law by the way

Something I don't understand. The last three tv sets I've bought (within the last 10 years) I've been asked for my address at the point of sale in Currys. I always assumed it was cross checked with the license database to ensure you had a license. If you don't have a license but have bought a new set, what do you say at the point of sale?

Retailers have to pass the information to Crapita so they can see if the address you give has a licence, Crapita will pursue you if not. What did you think would happen? Did you really think Currys would say "you aren't allowed to buy this telly" or something?

The million pound payoff and several million pounds pension for Mark Byford and him being invited back onto Radio 5 to plug his book, along with Botney's antics and taxi fares were pretty seminal for me. My contribution wasn't much, but I resent paying for that shite.

I'm saying that the BBC license funds the entirety of the BBC. So being happy use BBC services at the cost of license payers while the to watchers pay the fee, and, in some cases being derogatory about the license and those who pay it, is not an admirable position.

being happy use BBC services at the cost of license payers while the to watchers pay the fee ......... is not an admirable position

Um, why not? Surely you are not expecting people to feel guilty for not paying for something they are not liable for?

Of course I'm happy that I have been able to watch BBC shows for several years! Why wouldn't I be?

Everyone has had the same choice - if more people had chosen to do what I have done, the the BeeB would have had to restructure their funding a long time ago!

I'm very happy that I get to use the news website, and listen to the radio. And I don't have to pay anything to use them, awesome.

I don't buy a single newspaper, yet leech off lots of papers' readerships whilst browsing their websites. Amazing.

I'm pretty sure I've benefited somewhere down the line from government spending that was funded by the tax levied on tobacco products too, even though I don't smoke. Feeling pretty good about that one too.

All in all I'm a big ball of smug.

If I have to go somewhere by train I often pick up a discarded Daily Mail. I would never, ever, pay money for one. Where's that figure on this scale of admirability?

Having lived in the USA and put up with the crap over there I am happy to pay BBC licence fee and listen to Radio4 and World Service round the clock.
Best value aspect of life in the UK !