beans mash and sausages is a healthy meal

[madhurjazz]

Mother in law thinks its junk food. But the beans contain 1 of your 5 a day, mashed potatoes are just veg and a good source of carbs and the sausages are full of essential protein.

We often have ketchup, this has been shown to reduce many cancers like prostate, and a glass of juice.

Seems healthy to me and not junky.

TheFirie - are you honestly, really honestly, trying to say that sausages are similar to cigarettes health wise?!?!

We seriously are going to have huge repercussions from all this healthy/unhealthy nonsense in the future with talk like this!

Reads thread.

Reminds self why I avoid food threads in MN.

Leaves thread.

Gets sausages out to defrost.

Nope. This is not nonsense
I am not the one saying this, the world health organisation is . Have a look at the previous link I put.

Here are the groups:
Group 1 Carcinogenic to humans
Group 2A Probably carcinogenic to humans
Group 2B Possibly carcinogenic to humans

In group 1 you will find: arsenic, benzene, plutonium and processed meat and many more. It is the strength of the scientific evidence, not the how dangerous they are. In other words, is there enough evidence to say processed meat can cause cancer. Yes

[[9. Processed meat was classified as carcinogenic to humans (Group 1). Tobacco smoking and asbestos are also both classified as carcinogenic to humans (Group 1). Does it mean that consumption of processed meat is as carcinogenic as tobacco smoking and asbestos?

No, processed meat has been classified in the same category as causes of cancer such as tobacco smoking and asbestos (IARC Group 1, carcinogenic to humans), but this does NOT mean that they are all equally dangerous. The IARC classifications describe the strength of the scientific evidence about an agent being a cause of cancer, rather than assessing the level of risk.]] from the WHO website

Hence, a meal with sausages is NOT healthy, in the meaning of safe and good for your health

Op....don't add peas and sweetcorn... Too much sugar.

Instead, for the mash use potatoes, swede and carrot then turn it into monster mash. Whizz up kale in the processor with a little Olive oil and stir it through the hot mash. Bloody delicious.

HTH

Sausage mash and beans is food of the gods. I agree you need good quality sausages though. Could you improve the nutritional content by having a glass of fermented grape or apple juice?

I thought it was widely accepted that there are clear links between eating red/processed meat and bowel cancer?

Eat them if you like. Wash it down with a bottle of wine and a fag. You only get one go on this Earth.

But don't dismiss science as "nonsense". That's what causes huge public health repercussions.

People used to say it was nonsense when they first decided smoking was bad for you too.

It's definitely junk food but very tasty

But a grouping that only looks at the level of proof, but not the level of risk, is not particularly helpful.

Being run over by a car is definitely bad for you - lots of proof. So is being shot - again lots of proof.

However, the actual risk I take going out of my front door is what i need to know - and this is much greater from being run over than it is from being shot ...

I suspect that 'eating sausages once a fortnight' vs 'smoking 40 a day' have very, very different risk profiles, and if represented as 'likely death rate', the risk of eating sausages once a fortnight would be absolutely dwarfed by that of driving a car daily.

I fed my ds something very similar last night. He had mixed mash-carrot/sweet/white potatoe, a 94% pork sausage and carrot, sweet corn and peas. He eat every last morsel. I think that's much healthier than lots of other 'kids' meals and the healthiest thing of all is a good attitude towards food rather than this obsession over every last morsel.

The firie "the same group as cigarettes" absolutely does not mean mean is as harmful or even related in harm to cigarettes. It just means the strength of evidence of association is at the same grouping. It does say that in your link but I just wanted to make it clear lest anyone think eating sausages is as bad as smoking or asbestos

Sausage and mash has never been 'healthy' it's not a new thing.

Raisens and juice have always been sugary, kids yougurts have always been sugary. It's not a new thing not to give these to your children on a daily basis. Yogurt is healthy yes, like plain Greek yogurt though, not those crappy petite Filous many give, might as well eat a mars bar in terms of 'healthiness'

Peas are too much sugar too??

I agree with Mrs DV - tell people peas and sweetcorn are sugary and not to give them and they will refuse to believe anything you say

And I say again, look at the whole diet, not a single meal.

I had a friend when DS was small who was appalled that I gave him a biscuit for a snack - but her child had a sweet pudding (yoghurt, mousse, choc pudding etc) after every meal, whereas we had fruit if we had anything.

An occasional sausage in an overall healthy diet is not enough of a risk to get worked up about. Sausages in the context of a high fat, high sugar, highly-processed, low fibre diet with poor portion control - perhaps different.

Does a mars bar have the same calcium content as a petit filous?

They might not be ideal, but for some people you have t make a judgement call. My youngest will not drink milk, and eats very little cheese these days. I can't give him macaroni cheese every day, so sometimes he gets a fromage frais style yoghurt. The sugar isn't ideal, but the lack of calcium worries me more.

Moderation is key.

Dontyoulovecalpol
thanks but already done at 10.37.45

You also have to look at the overall 'diet and exercise' balance. DD eats more carbohydrate than some people might see as 'healthy' - but does high-intensity dance training 10-12 hours a week, and her diet was assessed by a specialist who saw it as pretty much ideal for her particular needs.

So suigar / carbohydrate for the type of toddler who only ceases running round the garden in order to get to the park to fling themselves around the equipment is one thing. Sugar / carbohydrate for the child who sits in front of TV or tablet at length - different.

Why would you ruin perfectly good mash by putting kale in it? Root vegetable mash sounds like a) baby food and b) a little pile of misery where proper mash should be.

Oh sausages cheesy mash and mushy peas. Lovely.

What's it got to do with your mil op?

Tell her to shove a lentil up her arse.

i wouldn't call it junk, but I wouldn't expect to see it in a nutritionists office either.

sausages, as pointed by many, can range in very poor to good quality. Tinned sugary beans (apparently, heinz beans are ok for that) I would say are ok, and mash isn't that great.

The meal is completely devoid of any vegetables (at least 5 a day ones).

And I say again, look at the whole diet, not a single meal.

indeed. I would say meals like that everyday would be bad. Perfectly fine on occasion.

I often wonder what some mumsnetters do eat some can pull apart an apple as unhealthy

no you can't. While an apple has a reasonable amount of sugar (about 10% by mass, so 10g in a smallish apple) it is full of other good things (it is mostly water by mass). Also, an apple is surprisingly filling, so you ordinarily don't eat a ton of them.

depends

cheap sausages are full of crap but high quality sausages are good

mash is it smash or freshly boiled potato's with milk/butter

baked beans have a little sugar but in general a good thing occasionally (much better than artificial sweeteners) but you could always swap for vegetables if you really wanted to

i think this is one of those think of moderation.There are lots of food that are bad for you but eating a little every now and then alongside a healthy diet is fine.

Eating to much of anything can be a bad thing its all about balance