Please tell me this pisses you off too?

[WaitrosePigeon]

I do a lot of motorway driving.
Can someone please enlighten me as to why people don't indicate when changing lanes? People just drift in and out of the lanes, cut in front of me etc.

I guess it's laziness but how is it hard to indicate? Surely it's just an ingrained thing you do without really thinking about it?

It's really starting to piss me off.

I do a huge amount of driving and everything infuriates me now. There's so much sloppy and, quite frankly, petty behaviour. Also, I'm fed up of people getting onto the virtually empty M6 at speeds below 40mph (live v far north). I think speed differential isn't well understood!

All the laziness and pushing is down to a lack of respect for others.

5minutes is probably exaggerated. When I travel there are lots of lorries and the Middle lane is fairly clear and I and driving at that pace so no I am not going to keep going into the slow lorry and caravan lane all the time. Lorry, lorry switch, lorry caravan, switch lorry, lorry , lorry, switch, lorry switch, lorry,lorry , switch. Caravan, lorry! When there is a decent run of course I go back in.
I did say OCCASIONALLY. So you honestly change back every single time when you have passed a lorry or a caravan and there are more less than a minute up ahead. You don't stay in the middle lane until you have passed them. Hats off to you then!

TrivialPursuit
I'm I the only one who thinks of it as the slow lane, the middle lane and the fast lane?
Which one is the inside lane - is that the same thing as the fast lane?

Really? I've always assumed it was pretty obvious?

You join a motorway on lane 1 (inside most lane). You can then use lanes 2 and 3 to overtake slower moving traffic as necessary, but you return to lane 1 asap afterwards.

There is NO SUCH THING as a "fast lane". It's that mindset that causes a lot of the issues with some drivers (not saying you).

I did say OCCASIONALLY. So you honestly change back every single time when you have passed a lorry or a caravan and there are more less than a minute up ahead. You don't stay in the middle lane until you have passed them. Hats off to you then!

This seems to be such an issue for some people (again, not directing at you, just general). You overtake as many other vehicles as you need to in that one manoeuvre, then pull back in. If that is 1, 2 or 10, it makes no difference. But an overtake is out-pass-back in.

You're not the only one that thinks that Trivial, but it's a fucking annoying and completely stupid misconception. You should be in the left hand lane (slow lane, if you wish) unless yore overtaking. And when you're done overtaking you should get back into the 'slow lane'.

You're, not yore. Bloody autocorrect.

So you honestly change back every single time when you have passed a lorry or a caravan and there are more less than a minute up ahead.

Less than 10 seconds ahead, no. More than 10 seconds, yes. Anything else is lane hogging. I even count it in my head

When I lived in Scotland, people genuinely did drive in the slow lane, unless they wanted to overtake. Then immediately afterwards, they went back to the slow lane. It was very nice and polite.

However, the M25 seems to reserve the slow lane almost exclusively for lorries, with other vehicles in the other 3 lanes. If we all crowded into the slow lane, we'd all drive at the speed of the slowest vehicle as it would be impossible to overtake and get back in.

I use the motorway everyday for the work commute. It's painful.

Especially when you've got near enough permanent roadworks (although I think they have been temporarily halted - lane markings have returned to normal) in what is a busy stretch anyway.

You just have to keep your eyes peeled.

You actually count!
Well we must be a lot of lanehoggers up north then. So I advise you not to come up here. The traffic flows perfectly smoothly up here except for an accident, fog or snow. When it snows everyone moves over a lane because it is safer and less snow. So probably snow lane hoggers then!
If there are 10 lorries in a stretch then yes shotsfired I do it in one manoeuvre then move back in.

it is legal to undertake, or pass on the nearside, but only if the traffic in the RH lane to you is in a 'queue' and moving 'slowly'. As there is no clear definition of either, probably best not to do it.

However, in defence of the slower driver, do people realise the time 'saved' by travelling at 70 mph v 65 mph over a distance of 20 miles is a mere 1 minute 20 seconds? I doubt if many run their life to such tight timetables that this would make a difference.

I am a punctilious indicator and it gives me the rage too when people don't. I also do a lot of motorway driving and often find myself behind someone tootling happily along in the middle lane at 60 mph or so with the inside lane completely clear. I would never undertake them, though.

I also see a lot of seriously terrifying boy-racer style driving, ie weaving in and out of lanes at 80-90 mph (no indicating of course, haha). Most times I get to the end of a long journey feeling genuinely thankful that I'm still in one piece.

My real hatred, though, is on a normal everyday road, waiting (and indicating) to come out of a junction with something approaching on the main road....and then they just turn before they get to me, without indicating. Because why on earth would they, in their self-inflated importance, need to let me know their intentions? Tossers.

I walk a lot to and I hate people not using indicators! I've also had stepping out after waiting a while and the man wasn't indicating and I got the abuse because he couldn't be fucked to indicate. :/

My pet hate along with not indicating on roundabouts, not changing from right to left indicator when you pass the exit prior to the one you want.

I want to get a little sign to hold up which says
'indicate you fucker' but I fear it would get me fired from work

Tailgating is probably one of (if not the) most dangerous things. I drive at 70mph. If someone is in the middle lane driving slower than that then I will overtake them in the outside land. Coming up behind me flashing your lights and driving an inch off my back bumper is not going to make me go faster.

Non-indicators are the worst, particularly on round-a-bouts! It also really annoys me when people indicate on motorways BEFORE looking and knowing it's safe to change lanes though - it makes everyone nervous and then they do strange and unexpected things.

I've driven most of my life in continental Europe - could someone please explain to me why most people here in UK insist on sitting in the middle lane, when the inside lane is completely empty and they are not going particularly fast? This really doesn't seem to happen in France/Germany or Belgium.

Off topic but mmmmm my most recent I love driving moment was driving down the m6 toll at 10.30 pm for work (so work paid toll and petrol) on referendum day and it was sooo empty and dreamy [dribbles]

What I hate most is people driving TOO CLOSE!

I once missed a pile up on the M3 by the skin of my teeth - it had been raining heavily and the late afternoon sun was blinding, and cars were still screaming down the fast lane so close together - I was only just thinking how crazy they were when something happened - don't know what but exactly as I went past a car directly on my right ploughed not just into, but on top of the car in front. Was past before I could see anything else but it must have been a nightmare.

I have no qualms about 'hogging' the middle lane if I am doing the speed limit (or just over) and passing things - in theory no-one else should be going faster than me anyway! I don't like drivers who hog the middle lane and are not going at 70mph.

I agree about indicating, it's not hard!

Should have added, I don't know why on earth we don't have automatically reduced speed limits when roads are wet, like they do in France. Wouldn't stop all the idiots, but might help a little bit.

I know technically it's not slow, medium and fast but in real life it is.

I drive in the middle mostly. I go into the slow Lane when it's clear I can drive there for a few minutes but not if I'm only going to have to come straight back out again. I go in the 3rd Lane when over taking vehicles going under 70 in the middle Lane.

I think it would be great if there was a slow Lane for lorries and people who don't like driving the speed limit, middle Lane for people who want to do 70/5 and a fast lane maybe 80/5 for those who bomb it down regardless.

No tolls and watching the sunrise for me icy!