To camp in random fields without permission in England

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I'm thinking about doing a solo trip around Devon and Cornwall in a car. Campsites seem expensive, you have to book and often there aren't any where I need them

I've got a pop up tent.

Would it really be so bad to just pitch it at 9pm in some quiet field out of sight (and without animals) spend the night, then come 6am pack it up and move on?

Obviously I wouldn't litter or leave any sign that I was ever there.

YABU as it's not your land. If someone jumped in your tent would you be ok with it?

Additionally you might end up in a field where someone is illegal lamping (apparently some travelers do this on farm land illegally) and get shot.

Tread lightly in this field, it belongs to someone else.

OP, I imagine you're probably about 50 years too late for proper wild camping in this country. Here, now, you will have to take the curtailed experience that can be offered without fucking up someone else's livelihood for the sake of your penny-pinching.

Worra I don't think she/he is planning on taking a car ;-)

In OP's first sentence she says she's planning a solo trip in her car.

I hope if you do op the farmers are like the locals round here. They would take huge delight in making you learn why it's stupid and entitled. At least I hope they'd get that chance, you'd potentially be seriously injured if they didn't know you were there and started moving animals/ machinery without realising you were in their path.

Also how the fuck would anyone so ignorant of rural life even know whether they were doing any harm? I doubt the likes of op would even recognise the difference between dairy pasture and crops.

fucking up someone else's livelihood

camping for one night? this is why i havent posted a thread in aibu for months!

Op you seem to have a complete disregard for how land ownership works/ came about and the development of civilised behavior. A bit of reading up on feudal systems and the development of civilisation should educate you.

66% of the land in Britain is owned by 0.3% of the population. Usually stolen from the commonwealth by threat of (or actual) force. And a large chunk of it is still owned by the same Norman families who were 'given' it after 1066.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/17/high-house-prices-inequality-normans/

How can a human 'own' land. Who can prove their provenance without implicating themselves of theft? Too right I don't respect it. But I won't cause any damage, not because it belongs to someone but I believe the whole earth should belong to the people, not a lucky few.

Really OP??!?!? Just spend £7 a night and go camping legally! YABVU!

Oh, get a fucking grip. Are you a Freeperson, as well? How would you react to find a squatter in your house when you returned? Wally.

Well, you can try and defend yourself on the whole 'property is theft' argument, but plenty of people have explained quite clearly why it might be a bad idea, and how there are a myriad of options open to you which will enable you to stay safe and to enjoy yourself.

I still want to know where you plan to park the car.

🙄 FFS.

Oh, I get it now. You're one of those.

The next revolution is scheduled during the X-factor auditions. I'll get cracking on the placards now.

Well this isn't about the whole camping thing. I posted pages ago that that is sorted and im doing it somewhere where its fine.

I see this isn't the place for a grown up conversation on the idea of ownership.

My parents bought a small holding when I was young. Mothers father was a shopkeeper, father brought up in a council house so hardly entitled. Where the hell do you get off op? If you want to camp on some land, work hard and buy a patch of your own and stop bleating.

This is why society is going to hell in a hand basket, people's sense of entitlement is fucking staggering!

On a banknote it says I promise to pay the bearer blah blah, who the fuck thought that one up, why should we follow rules, let's just take WTF we want.

Or pay the pitch fee.

Agree with bluepitchfork. Dairy bulls look daintier than their beefy counterparts, but they are vicious barsewards! Even when they are running with cows, which generally calms a bull down (too shagged out to chase anyone, I imagine).

The beautiful Jersey is a heartless killer - and that is NOT a joke.

It's not as if private land ownership is a New thing in England. If you don't like it, move!
It's lovely to have free wild camping all over Sweden and Finland but the density of population is ridiculously low there.
Campsite fees for one small tent and an adult are hardly extortionate.

Aren't you a delight OP

Is this a wind up

OP, whilst much of the land in Devon is owned by a few people, many of the farmers are tenants. In some cases, families have farmed the same place for several generations. It's not simply a case of whether the the land is legally theirs - it's theirs in the way that they've worked on it, shaped it, cared for it. Given the chance, they will talk about the land passionately and knowledgably. But if you want to discuss ownership with them, personally I would start by respecting them.

Too right I don't respect it.

^^ says it all really...

Where do you live, OP? How about I come camp in your garden for a couple of days, see how you feel about ownership then.

You seem to have very naive ideas about land ownership. People like you cause my family endless problems with trespassing and general entitled behaviour with the line 'who really owns things, anyway?^' .

I take it you don't own a house or garden then op. Or nobody else owns the house / garden you rent off them (like a tenant farmer may rent the land)?? So - when we all rock up at yours, it will be ok??

Or maybe camp in tesco car park cos tesco owning that land is unimportant too.

Is it 'wild camping' when travellers set up in a field?

No?

I see this isn't the place for a grown up conversation on the idea of ownership.
If you want a grown up conversation, go away and do a bit of research and learn a bit about farmer's overheads. When you've done that and perhaps lost your enormous sense of entitlement, maybe come back here for a 'grown up conversation'.
In the meantime, bearing in mind that you're such a free spirit, you won't object if a few of us rock up in our cars, pitch tents on your garden, piss and shit as necessary on your land, leave rubbish etc.
Just grow up, op. You're sounding like a petulant teenager who doesn't quite understand why you can't get your own way.