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To potentially make DH very ill?

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Sleepybunny · 31/07/2016 20:37

I realise there is a similar themed thread here, must be food hygiene day.

Anyway, I cooked a chicken on Thursday afternoon. Switched the oven off when it was ready and left it in there (one of those cook in the bag ALDI special bad boys).

We went away for the weekend and I totally forgot about it until now.

AIBU to test it on DH to see if it's edible? DH things it probably is, so is sort of consenting. He's also left his bastarding socks on the floor next to the laundry basket again, for me to collect and wash presumably. As such, I feel his life is expendable at the moment.

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TattyCat · 01/08/2016 10:56

When he gets ill, it's ok, the NHS will do what they can to sort him. Because they have nothing better to do. Hmm Idiot.

FeliciaJollygoodfellow · 01/08/2016 11:06

I'm not place marking promise, just wanted to say even with my stomach of steel I'd say no.

GrinWink

WorraLiberty · 01/08/2016 11:17

Why the hell is the OP getting a roasting?! He's a big boy, he knew how long the chicken had been there and he chose to eat it. I didn't realise women were responsible for their partner's stupidity!

Women are not responsible.

But if you read the thread title and the opening post, it's clear the OP is just as clueless as her DH.

That doesn't mean she deserves a 'roasting' (nice pun there btw Grin ), but the 'stupidity' isn't just the DH's alone.

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Sleepybunny · 01/08/2016 11:22

Thank you for clarifying that Worra, I'm desperately hoping we are neighbours after all.

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snowgirl29 · 01/08/2016 11:43

'Roasting' Brilliant! Grin Grin

TaraCarter · 01/08/2016 11:44

I want to clarify a little misunderstanding from the OP's DH early on, which may be key to his lifestyle choices...

OP's DH said that the chicken would be sterile like urine.

Firstly, I was also taught that urine is sterile (if the urinator doesn't have a urinary tract infection) at the moment it leaves the body and no longer. As soon, as it leaves the body, bacteria rush in to feast on it like wasps on a jam sandwich. This is why stale urine develops a more pungent smell if not cleaned up immediately.

Let me say this again, whatever its initial state, it does not stay sterile. It is not magic. Bacteria move in!

Secondly, recent research found it isn't sterile when it leaves after all.

ceebie · 01/08/2016 12:55

TaraCarter: it does not stay sterile. It is not magic. Bacteria move in!

Yes but they have to move in from somewhere, and the chicken was in a bag (I presume a sealed one?). So it's not the same as leaving it out on a counter where flies can spread germs onto it.

Having said that, I still wouldn't have eaten it.

lljkk · 01/08/2016 13:02

What happened to the chicken? Is it in the freezer, where??
I'm not surprised if he's fine, but it's a game of Roulette.

I am reading (work) about food fraud today. 3 day old chicken isn't looking so dodgy after all. :(

toadgirl · 01/08/2016 13:08

What chickens do when they're sick.

To potentially make DH very ill?
ChaChaChaCh4nges · 01/08/2016 13:21

Neither bag nor oven form a perfect seal. From a germ's perspective, there's loads of room to get in.

Plus it's not just germs you need to worry about either - it's toxins and chemical reactions too.

TheUnsullied · 01/08/2016 13:28

Why on earth would anyone describe the contents of that roasting bag as sterile??

TaraCarter · 01/08/2016 14:12

It was pointed out earlier in the thread (IceBeing or Garlic?) that the bag and oven can't possibly be perfect seals, otherwise they'd pop open when heated. If air can escape out, then bacteria can go in.

I can back up the theoretical science here about the expansion of heated air with the observation that my oven has vents which puff out air during cooking.

TheUnsullied I think the OP's HWIIMP's (husband who is in mortal peril) reasoning was that it was made sterile when OP cooked it on Thursday. He then concluded it still would be last night...

ceebie · 01/08/2016 14:26

I'm not suggesting for a minute that the contents of the bag are sterile! (Although I think OP's DH was). I'm suggesting that contamination by bacteria might be slower than if it wasn't in a bag. Therefore lower bacterial load in chicken = improved chances of recoverable food poisoning rather than death.

ceebie · 01/08/2016 14:28

i.e. just assessing OP's DH's chances of survival

TheGruffaloMother · 01/08/2016 14:35

Hmm. I don't think we can really say that the bacterial load would be low though. Once the first bacterium got to it, there was the potential to double up every 20 minutes. After 3 days that gets into silly figures, and that's just starting with 1. Not a very clever moment of the DH but hopefully he'll have gotten away with it this time. Let's hope his next foray into eating things he should be binning doesn't involve chicken.

Bambooshoots14 · 01/08/2016 14:47

I'm shocked my some peoples poor understanding of how bacteria works and the DH is still alive Shock

BlackeyedSusan · 01/08/2016 15:02

there are still another three and a bit days to go before we find out whether he has got away with it.

SistersOfPercy · 01/08/2016 15:11

Placemarking to see if he really has guts of steel.

Meanwhile, How can you forget that you cooked a chicken? very very easily. I have Fibromyalgia and am very prone to being forgetful. I cooked pigs in blankets for Christmas lunch and found them in the small oven on Boxing day (DH ate them)
I'll very often plate up a meal of leftovers for lunch and forget I've done it. DH has taken to leaving sticky notes on everything to remind me Blush

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Sleepybunny · 01/08/2016 15:18

You'll be pleased to know the chicken has been discarded. Lucky for me and the neighbours, the bin men came today too. Hopefully he won't venture to the local landfill to reclaim it.

On another note, he'd actually put it in the fridge last night. I found it there this morning. Worryingly it looks likes more of the breast has been carved off. I'm now wondering what he's taken to lunch. Shock

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TaraCarter · 01/08/2016 15:22

He put that in the fridge? Potentially contaminating everything else? Shock

This is how people get life-threatening food poisoning from innocuous raw vegetables.

JesusInTheCabbageVan · 01/08/2016 15:53

Sorry if this has already been mentioned, but who was it on here whose neighbours gave her off chicken without telling her (disguised in a curry)? It ended up being a live food-poisoning thread, and if I remember rightly hers started around 36 hours later, in the middle of the night. Poor woman.

LostSight · 01/08/2016 15:58

I too am amongst those who would not have eaten this. That said, a friend of mine visited her sister in South Africa in the summer. My friend was horrified as she watched her sister eat a lasagne that had been sitting uncovered on the kitchen table for four days. Apparently she was fine.

Curviest · 01/08/2016 17:44

is this a joke?

lastofthewintergin · 01/08/2016 17:46

Hahahahahaha cracking up that you're considering it! But nope you can't do it, poor sod.

coffeeandbubbles · 01/08/2016 17:54

Check his life insurance first.