To pity ISIS.. You will meet our children's generation on the battlefield of civilisation!

[FlyHighLittleBee]

Shamelessly lifted from the facebook page 'man vs baby'. I hear about these attacks, and worry about the world I've brought my baby DD into. Sharing this with you so it can possibly make you feel a little bit brighter, and stronger, like it did me:

It's been a shocking few weeks.. the murder of Jo Cox, the siege in Orlando.. this horrific Nice attack. All of which seem somehow worse when you have a perfect little human-being to despatch into the future.

I'm not a particularly smart guy, I don't have any wisdom that makes sense of any of this shitty horror. It just makes me really sad.

But, even though it makes me think about the sort of world Charlie will inherit.. I'm optimistic. The future isn't something we send our children into.. it's something that, in large part, they build from the bottom up. They're not bystanders to the future, they're its fabric.

..And I've come to realise that there's an unstoppable army of us who plan to raise our kids to be smart and funny and fair, tolerant and good.. And to not be total fucking dicks to one another. We're raising them to be the best of us.. And God help the fanatics, the twisted, the dumb and the ignorant who get in their way.

I pity the merciless c*nts who will meet my son's generation on the battlefield of civilisation. They don't stand a chance.

So, for today, fuck you ISIS.. my son and all his friends are on their way... And your pathetic, backwards, caveman brutality will not survive their goodness.

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i believe in kindness and decency and try to live like that. I have absolutely no answers for all these horrors. Is there more of it or are we more aware?

The tea light/je suis Charlie brigade are not my thing. What can ordinary citizens do? Keep plodding on and try not to get caught in the undertow.

It's a man.. Surely why he's having such a hard time here?

I think most people like 95% are good, but the media presence and mode of operation of the terrorists make it appear as if evil is everywhere.
It's not, good will prevail.

agreed, go on living our lives - showing our children that life is worth fighting for because it is beautiful and good and there is so much wonder to be seen if we don't become purely fixated on the horrors going on.

It's a man.. Surely why he's having such a hard time here?

Doubt it. Not from me anyway. I would say exactly the same if a mummy-blogger had said it. He didn't say anything misogynistic or sexist so his gender isn't relevant. It's more the blogger tendency to think that you invented parenthood and that you're way better than anyone who has done it in the past. But then again, I guess you do have to have that attitude if you make a living from writing mundane things about your life.

Bakewell I agree with you about the hashtags and the'pray for Paris/Brussels/Nice and who knows how many more places before this nightmare ends. It isn't doing anything. We don't need prayers, or handwringing. We need intelligence, co operation between police forces, efficient and effective policing of the internet and maybe a little less tolerance of the intolerant. ISIS are a death cult, as a PP has said. They will die out, because they are made up of criminals and society's losers. It just needs to happen much more quickly.

mmm Daesh indeed are a death cult but have an appeal to a disenfranchised minority. If only they were just losers.

Once ISIS burns itself out they'll be many more behind them. They themselves came hot on the heels of Al Quaida.

Response on here has been quite harsh.

In the face of the atrocities we see in the world today, people have to put their faith in something. Choosing to concentrate on the kindness and humanitarian values of an upcoming generation is very far from the worst thing people could be doing.

And your pathetic, backwards, caveman brutality will not survive their goodness.

Unfortunately, it's been the opposite situation, and I can't see how it will change. Goodness has no affect on a machine gun or a speeding lorry.

There's also the small.point that this latest incident doesn't actually seem to be an ISIS attack..

honestly fan....who knows? We are fed a version of events.

I pity the merciless c*nts who will meet my son's generation on the battlefield of civilisation. They don't stand a chance.

Were we civilised when we went into a war which killed hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq, knowing full well all the available intelligence showed Iraq to be no threat whats-so-ever?

We did not have international terrorism like this 30 years ago. Islam is thousand of years old. What has changed?

Our leaders need to be civilised.

Raising our children to be smart happy, funny, whilst ignoring the impact the 'civilised' west is having on the rest of the world in general will not help give them a better world.

OP has shared a comment that's inspired by hope rather than hate. It's not terribly profound but I don't find it any reason to piss on her chips.

It's just so naive that it hurts. If some people trying to raise nice children, without doing anything revolutionary different from the previous generations changed anything at all, then the world would be very different.

It's just obvious.

Besides, niceness and tolerance won't stand a chance against a bomb. That, too, is obvious.

If only raising children to be "smart and funny and fair, tolerant and good" were enough to stop global terrorism. If the writer genuinely believes this to be true, he sounds rather untethered from reality.

The self-congratulatory tone is a bit irritating too: Here we come to save the day, because we are such amazing parents. I mean, there's confidence in oneself and then there's delusional arrogance.

We did not have international terrorism like this 30 years ago. Islam is thousand of years old. What has changed?

Not that I disagree with your comment at all, I think the illegal war definitely sparked this all off, but I thought you might find this article interesting reading www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/

It doesn't seem to be the case that Isis/Daesh would never have formed or become problematic, just that we helped create the right conditions...

Islam is thousand of years old.

No it's not.

It's less than two thousand years old. Christianity is just over two thousand and Judaism is older. Other belief systems are even older.

But what does it matter? People of all faiths and none want to live in peace and freedom and have struggled for it - sometimes violently. Why are people on this thread so keen to abandon that desire?

You don't have to be too old to remember an era in the uk when no one could walk around in army uniform because of the risk of attacks from the IRA.

We're back there again. No biggie, this shit is cyclical.