To pity ISIS.. You will meet our children's generation on the battlefield of civilisation!

[FlyHighLittleBee]

Shamelessly lifted from the facebook page 'man vs baby'. I hear about these attacks, and worry about the world I've brought my baby DD into. Sharing this with you so it can possibly make you feel a little bit brighter, and stronger, like it did me:

It's been a shocking few weeks.. the murder of Jo Cox, the siege in Orlando.. this horrific Nice attack. All of which seem somehow worse when you have a perfect little human-being to despatch into the future.

I'm not a particularly smart guy, I don't have any wisdom that makes sense of any of this shitty horror. It just makes me really sad.

But, even though it makes me think about the sort of world Charlie will inherit.. I'm optimistic. The future isn't something we send our children into.. it's something that, in large part, they build from the bottom up. They're not bystanders to the future, they're its fabric.

..And I've come to realise that there's an unstoppable army of us who plan to raise our kids to be smart and funny and fair, tolerant and good.. And to not be total fucking dicks to one another. We're raising them to be the best of us.. And God help the fanatics, the twisted, the dumb and the ignorant who get in their way.

I pity the merciless c*nts who will meet my son's generation on the battlefield of civilisation. They don't stand a chance.

So, for today, fuck you ISIS.. my son and all his friends are on their way... And your pathetic, backwards, caveman brutality will not survive their goodness.

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Lovely sentiment but rubbish. This present generation is great too in many ways-doesn't make a difference to evil coming you in the form of a truck. Today's victims are not found wanting when they meet Isis on 'the battle field of civilisation' (that's the underground, BTW, or a shopping centre or firework display). They would not be safer if they were brave, more humane, smarter, more cuddly or wiser.

Though as for that, or children have exactly the same pretending for stupidity and evil as we do ourselves and add the present children if ISIS do.

There is a lot of sentimental tosh on Facebook. This falls into the 'next time you see your kid pick up a banana skin and lob it over the side of his highchair, fall to your knees and study the moment because it might be the last banana he ever touches' genre.

our children have exactly the same propensity

I was raised to be fair and tolerant. I am smart and kind. My friends are the same - it hasnt stopped the world turning to shit.

YABU I'm afraid and very simplistic.

One child raised to hate, armed with guns or bombs and prepared to die can kill 100 children raised to love.

Being smart, funny, happy clappy and civilized won't help you should you meet one of them.

what a lovely lot you are, someone finds something to hold on to in a time or uncertainty and worry and you decide to rip it off them, stamp on it and grind it into the dust. Do you want everyone to feel as miserable and angry as you do?

This generation do not build civilisation from the bottom up either do they. They inherit an unequal world where 99% of the world's land and wealth is the pockets of 1% of the population.

Even good people are casually racist and even more casually sexist, their children grow up to be the same. Our children are conditioned to behave in a certain way no matter how tolerant you are at home, society is ready to hand out their roles depending on their sex, class or the colour of the skin.

Religion is still a huge force and it is exclusively a pile a misogynistic tosh that's as old as Eve.

Sorry mate but the simplistic idea that somehow we are better parents than our parents and that our kids will be super heroes is plain wrong. We need to look at the inequality in our society and think about the reasons other nations have to hate us, that'd be a start.

Sorry for the ramble...

Well it was in AIBU .
However I failed to spot the OP's line about sharing this to make others feel stronger. So sorry OP if my comment brought you down.

Crock of shite

Do you want everyone to feel as miserable and angry as you do?

There's a huge difference between being miserable, and being a realist. Sentiments like those of the father in that blog are lovely idealisms, however hold no weight in the real world. Every generation hopes the next will 'do better', which generation will try and fix the 'here and now'? Why is it down to our children to be better people? If we're the ones teaching them to be loving and inclusive, why haven't we solved the issues of 'anger and misery' already?

re world war one.....would they have actually joined up if they had the faintest idea what was waiting for them? They died like cattle.....victims of propaganda.

Haha! Ok, point taken. I had had a few wines and misjudged the level of soppiness/ cheerfulness/ optimism that is accepted on MN (AIBU especially).

The worlds always been shit though. It's just that it was easier to ignore when it was mostly happening in other continents.

I can't believe the defeatist attitudes on here. Yes the OP is simplistic but if you don't believe your own children can be part of the solution (and you can too of course) what the hell is the point?

Although isn't he trying to say that ISIS (or similar) will find it hard to recruit in 20 years or so as generally, people are getting much more tolerant as the years go by, so aren't pissing off these young men that feel no other choice but to go off and join them.

I agree with that. I don't know anybody my age that's racist (early 20s). I know quite a few people my dads age. They're the ones sharing Britain first links and similar.

'Pissing off' is the wrong term (a little hungover). Discriminating, making them feel unaccepted/ worthless in their own country. It's getting better IMO

re world war one.....would they have actually joined up if they had the faintest idea what was waiting for them? They died like cattle.....victims of propaganda

Yeah, maybe not. And I think there was a lot of social pressure too- you would be a social outcast if you didn't. But it's still astonishing to think of how brave these poor kids really were and how much strength they showed. I don't at all think we should go back to conscription or anything but it's just mildly amusing how some 'dad-blogger' reckons that his parenting is going to save the world because he is raising some super-hero. This despite the fact that throughout history parents have always tried to raise their children to be good and decent. And throughout history, people have shown enormous courage and bravery, sometimes on a scale that we can't imagine today. Yet, dad-blogger has the answers because his kid will be different to all previous kids.

Isis is a cult. Cults have never had a problem finding the weak and making them believe. Being good and tolerant won't stop dump joining cults. And it wit stop people feeling that they've be dealt a shifty hand in life (because they have)

This is going well, isn't it OP?

I like optimism. I hope my children's generation do find a way to stop the hate. Why wouldn't you hope for that?

Actually what is happening is a bigger rift with every generation, ISIS/Daesh are raising lots and lots of children with hatred for Western values/the "wrong kind of Islam"/anything that isn't them, whilst Europe has a population that is losing the people who remember what it's like to live in a war-torn country and why we fought. We're a couple of generations on from the people who lived through the horror of two World Wars and we're raising children who don't understand the concept at all. Tolerance is a wonderful thing, but it's not going to end well.

I'm pretty sure we're not the first generation of parents who are aiming to bring up decent, civilised children!

Yeah, exactly.

And aren't ISIS abducting women and raping them to produce more murderous assholes, or was that some other Islamist group?

I am sorry, but you will hardly be willing to pop out twelve or more children over the course of your life, and moreover, you will not be able to raise such a enourmous number of children to be decent people while we live under patriarchy and 11 year old boys watch porn.

The only strategy that might succeed would be cutting short their "supply" of women.

Oh. This is by a man. Well. HE might actually want to force a woman to give birth to ten or more babies.
... this is NOT good news.

Jesus, VestalVirgin, calm the fuck down . How did someone hoping that we can raise a better generation become a rant about the patriarchy .

For pities sake!