Meet the Other Phone. Flexible and made to last.

Meet the Other Phone.
Flexible and made to last.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think this 'nut free policy' is OTT for a school

747 replies

MerryMarigold · 21/07/2016 10:42

So, letter home about next term's 'nut free' policy and I think it's a bit extreme but tell me what you think. In packed lunches (I will have 3 having packed lunch next year), we are not allowed to include:

  • Fruit and cereal bars which contain nuts
  • Sesame seed rolls
  • Nutella
  • Peanut butter
  • Cakes made with nuts
  • Muesli bars
  • Baklava/ Nougat/ Turkish Delight
  • Any packets of nuts

I would assume we are not allowed to give them pistachios in a Tupperware box either.

Anyway, my point is that how can they police it this closely? I know some kids cannot come into ANY contact with nuts, but for example, my kids would have nuts in granola at breakfast and probably not always wash their hands before school (if they remembered to clean their teeth when they first get up). I also refuse to check the ingredient list of everything I put into a packed lunch for 3 children so there are bound to be nuts in something they end up having.

Nuts are very healthy and nutritious, so we basically need to swap nut based products for something less healthy. I am most upset about the Muesli bars and no cakes made with nuts. Ds1 is a major food-refuser. He has never managed school dinners and food at home is an issue too. He nearly always has a muesli bar in his lunch, which I suppose I will need to substitute with biscuits. And sometimes I would include cakes made with nuts just to up his nutrition at lunchtime a bit. He doesn't like any form of meat, fish or cheese in his sandwiches.

I do sympathise that there are (a very few) people who have a 'life threatening reaction to nut products' (quoted on the 'nut free policy' letter). However, I would assume they do carry an epi-pen as it is impossible to create a completely nut free environment in a large school of children who are eating nuts at least at home. So, in reality it is not life threatening unless there is a child who has an unknown severe nut allergy. I would even be compassionate if it was stated that a child (without mentioning names) had had a reaction several times in school, but I very much doubt a child has reacted at school, and there may not even be a child with a severe nut allergy, so this is just scare mongering really.

SO, I do need to feel more positive about this and the extra work it will cause me, the extra moaning from my child and the reduction in nutrition. Please tell me off gently! I've had a bad night with not much sleep though, so please bear with me.

OP posts:
AngelBlue12 · 27/07/2016 11:37

I disagree that a 5 year old can't understand not to take food. My 4 year old in gluten intolerant and she will always ask if something has gluten in before eating it. She never just takes food from anyone (even other children) without asking an adult if it has gluten in. She knows that if she does eat something it will make her feel really poorly (upset stomach, really bad acid reflux etc). I think that the onus is on us as parents to educate our own children rather than relying on other people to keep them safe in this instance.

Obviously in extreme cases even smelling nuts/touching someone who has eaten them is enough to cause a reaction but that is rare.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/07/2016 11:43

Well not everyone can educate their children so that is quite scary really. Although I do agree with you, I hope it's not inevitable my DD will suffer.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/07/2016 11:43

Not disagreeing with your post just worried by this thread, although it has been helpful

BeyondBeyondBeyondBeyondBeyond · 27/07/2016 11:54

Bit of non-empirical research for y'all - I asked my family what allergy is 'worst'. They all thought nuts, and they all thought that the only possible reaction to a nut allergy is anaphylaxis.
Probably a big contributor to there being no medical investigation for my peanut-sickness!!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/07/2016 12:42

Dd gets a big rash with peanuts and lentils.

bruffin · 27/07/2016 18:46

Lugemes allergies are odd. As i said above ds grew out of peanut and then gained chickpeas. Ds allergies have involved throwing up instantly, foaming at the mouth(his mouth was filled with saliva like a little lake there was so much) he also had full anaphylaxis to a macadamia nut.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 27/07/2016 19:42

interestingly DD tested clear for peanut last year, but has not been given the all clear yet. So maybe she has also moved on to chickpeas.

MerryMarigold · 27/07/2016 20:58

Fanjo, my mystery allergy is weird. I get terrible hives, joint swelling which only goes down with steroids. I had it for 3 months after I had twins and kept me up during night as so itchy despite assist being sleep deprived (they wouldn't give me the steroids as breastfeeding). I get it every couple of years and often starts when i have a little cold so maybe a virus.

OP posts:
fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 28/07/2016 21:49

Sorry..I just saw this..I really sympathise, it's horrible when the itching starts.

I go round looking bright red like I'm very embarrassed or have a drink problem.

MerryMarigold · 29/07/2016 08:37

Oh no! I had a red itchy rash for a few weeks late in pg. I had to put frozen peas on my belly to get some relief !

OP posts:
bruffin · 29/07/2016 13:21

Ds just back from Australia, he spent 5 weeks there and he is so disappointed with their approach to allergy. He said everything is labled with gluten and wheat because of the gluten free fad, but barely anything was labled with nuts, and even the waiting staff were reluctant to go and check recipes for him. The planes werent very good either.

NuggetofPurestGreen · 29/07/2016 13:22

That's funny bruffin I've found Australia to be fine!! As good as here if not better. Whereabouts was he??

bruffin · 29/07/2016 14:19

He was in Perth, Cairns, Port Douglas, Magnetic Islands, Fraser Islands and Sydney, so all over really. I think he said the Potting Shed in Sydney was the most helpful.

NuggetofPurestGreen · 29/07/2016 15:15

Maybe the smaller places aren't as good - I was in Sydney and found it great.

fascicle · 29/07/2016 16:16

We went to the US last year and it made me appreciate the positive impact that EU food allergen labelling/provision of information has had. (Son reacted to mustard - not on the allergy radar in the US - which we were mistakenly told was not present in a dish).

bruffin · 29/07/2016 17:26

We are going on a Californian road trip in 3 weeks tomorrow (cant wait) , he can have a good compare with Australia.
Not very impressed with Virgin as they dont offer nut free option on their food selection menus and when the travel agent asked about it they said "all our child menus are nut free"
DS is 20 yrs old and 6ft tall and will not be impressed if he is offered a childs meal. My friends ds was 14 or 15 and given a childs meal as a nut free option about 4 years ago. I also think they only offer peanut free, not tree nut free, will have to call them next week.

mishmash1979 · 29/07/2016 18:35

My friends nut free offering on her flight to the Maldives was a bread roll and a packet of crisps!!

bruffin · 30/07/2016 10:44

Nugget
Ds said in Sydney they went to a bakery that had nutella bread with a label at the front there was an allergy listing which just said "contains wheat and gluten" but no mention of nuts or just hazelnuts.

NuggetofPurestGreen · 30/07/2016 14:21

Well that is ridiculous bruffin! I suppose I just found them helpful in restaurants.

Jonathan1999 · 23/10/2018 23:13

Hi there

My son has a severe nut allergy. He s allergic to all nuts, he doesn’t even have to eat one , if someone has had them and is close to him or he s playing with anyone who has ate nuts he starts to have a reaction. He has an epi pen , adrenaline tablets and piriton with him at all times. I have asked my sons school to make the school a nut free school, I don’t think it’s too much to ask other parents to just not give their kids nuts until they are at home or out of school as I know the experience for my son is horrible, for me as a parent it’s horrible and if a child is responsible for another child falling ill then that’s horrible also. I would help any parent who s child had life threatening allergies, plenty parents would , i don’t think there’s anything at all wrong for a school to be nut free.

agnurse · 24/10/2018 00:13

I can see primary schools being not free. That's pretty standard around here. Small children often don't wash their hands very well and are quite apt to share lunches and snacks.

I do think it would be unreasonable to have a ban at a secondary school. Realistically, if you have a nut allergy or other severe allergy, by the time you're about 10 you should be able to police that for yourself. It's not reasonable to expect that every single place you ever go is going to be nut-free and you have to know by that age how to avoid contact. Plus children are old enough by that point to wash their hands properly. (Some children can't even touch nuts or nut residue because they can react badly.)

Willow2017 · 24/10/2018 00:18

ZOMBIE THREAD!!

Dont think op cares now, this thread died 2 years ago!

New posts on this thread. Refresh page