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AIBU to not give a monkeys what Laura Kuenssberg thinks?

75 replies

freebreeze · 20/07/2016 19:16

I just find her unnecessary and patronising. If I'm watching the news I really don't need someone to bla bla bla about how they interpret events. It's so patronising and irritating. I mean this evening Angela Merkel meets Theresa May. 'It's so important these two ladies get along and make a good impression' Laura informs us. Gee thanks, would you know it?
So irritating. AIBU ??

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Pandakitchen · 21/07/2016 11:14

Felascloak What about Victoria Derbyshire on BBC2 albeit not prime time, I understand that she has received treatment for Cancer and still presents a daily current affairs show.

I don't mind Laura Kuenssberg, her tweets are insightful & it is good to see a bright, non plastic woman on TV. I wasn't overly impressed with her question to Teresa May and Angela Merkal last night though, 'What do you make of each other?' was a little light.

I hope we don't go down the american identikit newsreaders route, they all look waxy and facially frozen (Men & Women), with the same accents and delivery.

GloriousGusset · 21/07/2016 11:19

I don't mind LK overall although sometimes she irritates me. Her face is permanently Hmm but I'm sure she looks like that when she's sleeping too.

Felascloak · 21/07/2016 11:27

My dislike of LK is not because she is a woman. What an odd comment to make! Surely being a woman doesn't mean I can't make negative comments about another woman? I dislike her because of her screechy voice

I wasn't talking about individual posters. But society as a whole has higher standards for women in the public eye than men. No one posts this kind of thing about the men, because we are used to thinking male opinions are valuable and female ones less so.
Wrt "screechy voice" again that's a criticism that's peculiar to women, who are physically designed to speak at a higher register than men. Again, we've been conditioned to think a deeper register is authoritative and has gravitas. But that's hard for women to achieve. Hence Thatchers voice therapy.
Of course criticise other women. But be aware that societies biases might be colouring your opinion and how you express it.

Atenco · 21/07/2016 11:41

Surely, one thing is analysis and another is reporting? They should not get confused.

Goingtobeawesome · 21/07/2016 11:42

I can't stand her and mute th telly when she's in. She says 100 words when 20 will do and is very patronising and clearly thinks she's amazing.

She's not.

JudyCoolibar · 21/07/2016 11:49

The BBC need someone to spout their Westminster centric, anti-Semitic, lefty agenda so it might as well be her.

Oh, come off it, she is so obviously not left-wing or indeed anti-Semitic. If you think that, you haven't been paying attention. And her immediate predecessor, Nick Robinson, is a died-in-the-wool active Conservative and still presents the Today programme.

weebarra · 21/07/2016 11:51

She was in my year at uni. Didn't really know her but she did seem a bit up herself. Doesn't stop her being a good journalist though.

Goingtobeawesome · 21/07/2016 12:00

Felascloak - Victoria Derbyshire has been ill and she's back presenting a major program.

PollyPerky · 21/07/2016 12:06

Of course criticise other women. But be aware that societies biases might be colouring your opinion and how you express it.

Goodness you're patronising!

I am quite capable of making a judgement or having an opinion about LK or anyone without it being coloured by societies [society's?] 'biases'.

Women have higher pitched voices than men. Some women have higher pitched voices than other women. I prefer a woman's voice on TV or radio to be slightly deeper rather than screechy. This has bugger all to do with 'gravitas' but everything to do with my ear drums, thank you!

I find her reports too lengthy, too verbose, too stating the blinking obvious at times and at other times pure fiction because they are simply her opinion - they aren't facts. I object to her because she isn't just 'reporting' she's putting a slant on events which are her own. This is fine in newspapers- if you read the Mail you know what to expect, and same if you read the Guardian. They nail their colours to the mast. But the BBc ought (ha ha) to just 'report ' when it's a new programme and let people make up their own minds .

Coffeethrowtrampbitch · 21/07/2016 12:10

I think she must find it hard to be impartial given that her brother is a senior civil servant, and her sister High Commissioner to Mozambique.

One even vaguely critical analysis of government policy and her family could lose their jobs. I don't see how she can be expected to report impartially under these circumstances, or give impartial analyses when she is experiencing this type of pressure.

It's isn't her fault though, the BBC are very poor at impartially. Their Chief Exec used to be on the board of HSBC. HSBC have been accused of improper financial behaviour, it hasn't been reported in newspapers because they have threatened to pull their advertising, which generates huge revenue. Two Newsquest editors were sacked for threatening to go ahead with the story anyway, although one has been reinstated. BBC Chief Exec was on the board of HSBC at the time of the alleged scandal.

Felascloak · 21/07/2016 12:15

I had forgotten about Victoria panda and going and you are both right. Hopefully a good sign the tide is turning. Grin
However what I would say is the illnesses Nick and Andrew had have affected their presentation styles quite dramatically whereas Victoria's hasn't.
I don't know, I may be reading too much into it.

RedHareWithBlondeHair · 21/07/2016 12:30

I think she's doing a good job. I don't particularly like her 'analysis' it really comes across as "Today, a bus left its depot because it had to transport passengers", "Tomorrow, it will be hot" and so forth.

I suppose this is all part of a wider BBC ideology of dumbing down the news.

Much as I think he's a twat I prefer Andrew Neil's style of presenting.

GloriousGusset · 21/07/2016 12:31

Tom Bradby on the ITV news has turned it into 'What Tom Thinks' too hasn't he?

QueenLaBeefah · 21/07/2016 13:41

Tom Bradby is dreadful. He's made news at 10 completely unwatchable now.

ailith · 21/07/2016 13:44

Foxyloxyetc:

Kamal Ahmed is the latest married conquest in the newsreader Sophie Long's life. Previously it had been her fellow news presenter, Tim Willcox. She broke up both her own marriage and his. Yuch.
Don't rate Ahmed for that reason.

And yes, Peston does have a speech impediment hence his style of elongating words.

Goingtobeawesome · 21/07/2016 13:52

I'd read that when talking off telly Robert talks like everyone else. Being on screen affects him.

ailith · 21/07/2016 13:55

I agree about Laura Kuenssberg being an irritating practitioner of dumbed-down news presentation. But then a lot of them are at it and I agree with the poster who said Andrew Neil's methods are infinitely preferable. LK has an extremely irritating voice too. (Her accent is lovely.)

As a matter of interest, she is pretty well-connected and not because she married money as some ludicrous poster on this very page believes! Haha

"The daughter of Scottish businessman Nick Kuenssberg, OBE,[3][4] and his wife Sally Kuenssberg, CBE,[5] her paternal grandfather was the originally German Dr. Ekkehard von Kuenssberg, a founder and president of the Royal College of General Practitioners. Her maternal grandfather, Lord Robertson, was a High Court of Justiciary judge. Her great-uncle was the last British Governor General of Nigeria, Sir James Wilson Robertson."

ailith · 21/07/2016 13:57

Going etc.
Re. Peston:
Really?! Haha I like him anyway and think he is kinda attractive.

PollyPerky · 21/07/2016 14:03

There was a feature about her in one of the broadsheets a few months ago.
Who knows what was true and what wasn't , but the main impression given - by talking to her [selected] peers and colleagues - is that she is highly ambitious and would walk over anyone to further her career. Ok that might be sour grapes, but on the other hand....

I think I'd rather she was billed as 'The news according to Laura' rather than a political editor. I don't think she adds any value because most people are able to listen to the news, follow events and come to their own conclusions without having it all repeated by LK and embellished by her imagination.

I've never ever listened to her and come away thinking 'Ah yes, that makes sense, I've learned something new.'

RiverTam · 21/07/2016 14:07

God, she's a billion times better than Nick Robinson who was so tabloid it was painful to watch. Might start following her on Twitter.

Never really had a view in Peston but he sounds like a good egg.

GloriousGusset · 21/07/2016 14:09

she is highly ambitious and would walk over anyone to further her career.

I doubt you'd make it to BBC Political Editor without being highly ambitious and single minded.

JassyRadlett · 21/07/2016 18:19

One even vaguely critical analysis of government policy and her family could lose their jobs.

Which country do you think we're living in?

TinySalmon · 21/07/2016 19:19

I really dislike Laura Kuenssberg too. I thought it was only me!

BeckyMcDonald · 21/07/2016 19:24

She's a fantastic journalist. I'm not sure there is a way anyone can argue against that really.

And political analysis has always been the political editor's remit. She probably knows more about politics and the inner workings of Parliament than all but a small handful of other journalists in the world so I do want to hear what she thinks, even if I don't often agree with it.

And I find her pretty right wing TBH, when you compare her to the channel 4 news presenters.

MrsCookieMonster78 · 21/07/2016 19:53

I like LK, think her analysis is really good. I watch a lot of political and news programmes and think the BBC are generally really good and not sure why people would think they are dumbed down (but maybe I'm too dumb to notice!). They are certainly streets ahead of ITV and better than SKY imo. I don't know why Peston moved to ITV and I really like him but that Sunday show is awful between the cringe relaxed guests eating breakfast and that bloody screen that poor Allegra Stratton mans that never works.

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