To want to report her

[Northerngrump]

My bil has got a new girlfriend. She's come up from London and moved in with bil into a house my mil owns, for minimal rent. Ive found out she has a council house in London that she's not intending on giving up so she's sub-letting it. This really pisses me off, as the shortage in council houses is well known, but also as they always plead poverty, but neither of them have full time jobs. I work my arse off and we just get by each month, and it bugs me that people use the system (and take advantage of my mil). It would be a shitty thing to report her - I think sub-letting is a serious offence - but some days I'm so tempted!!!

I'd report. Because there are deserving people who need that house. If it were empty when she was at BF's fine (backburner option). But with a tenant in, she's taking the piss.

Could be opening up a can of worms if they are both on benefits too.

But subletting a council property is shitty considering there is such a lack of properties.

Another issue is that if the new tenant doesn't realise they're subletting the woman is probably one of those dodgy landlords people complain about. Who will fix the boiler if there's a problem?

Does everyone go around looking for juicy situations to report?

Not everyone. TheWindInThePillows Just a lot of people on MN

She's committing fraud twice. Once for living elsewhere whilst taking up a much needed council property, and secondly for subletting it which is strictly against the rules.

The taxpayer is funding her and she's making money too.

REPORT HER. It's an anonymous phone number. Someone who may have been on the housing waiting list for some time will benefit.

It's not the fault of tenants that there are huge waiting lists for social housing, and that there just isn't enough in the first place.

Reporting someone subletting won't solve the housing crisis.

If the amount of venom spat at social housing tenants (or 'welfare bludgers', if you're a dick) was directed to those who have actual responsibility, maybe there would be enough houses to go round all those that need them.

If you give up a council property, and then are in need of one again, how long would you be likely to wait for one?

Pissing myself laughing here at Liz reporting someone for living in their own home

And quite impressed at all the clairvoyants on the thread, who keep insisting the woman in the OP, is making a profit from sub-letting.

Can any of you predict this week's lottery numbers?

Allmybestfriends where I live if you gave it up, you wouldn't get one again

You could go back on the list however you'd be advised to find private rental and apply for housing benefit if you couldn't afford the rent

You'd be so low priority anyway as a single working adult with no dependants that it would be 10years onwards and as soon as you have an address you drop further down in priority as your "suitably housed"

The phrase 'taxpayers money' is a bullshit phrase anyway.

VAT, council tax, fuel duty, road tax, taxes on alcohol and cigarettes. Lots of ways to be a taxpayer.

Emotive bullshit buzzwords from our glorious leaders.

poaspcos that's what I suspected. Who'd choose to do that?

FWIW, if there was no housing crisis, I'd probably say report. But there is, and I wouldn't be giving up my secure housing for a relationship that's less than a year old if there is little to no chance I'd ever get it back.

Worlds full of badness. Thread proves it. Live & let live. Focus on own life. Don't listen to tittle tattle & take it as gospel when it suits cos you don't like someone. Leave things until at least you know the full story , correctly and reliably .
Imagine the bother you'd actually cause yourself if bil & mil knew you'd reported?
If it was me .... I wouldn't waste my energy on something like this. Every time you think of the situation you should stop & say something nice to the person beside you. You'll feel so much better

The people saying that the OP should be sure of her facts before reporting - why?
The Council will investigate and if there is no case to answer, nothing will come of it. Even if there is a case to answer, it is quite possible nothing will come of it, as pp's have suggested.
If the OP does report it, the Council will not divulge who made the complaint; her details will be kept confidential. So it would only cause a family argument if she revealed it herself.
The people quibbling over whether the gf makes a profit: you might be right. It could easily be an informal agreement with someone who is only just covering the rent.
But then again you might be wrong. Either way she is breaking the terms of her tenancy agreement.
Council tenants do pay rent but it is subsidised by the tax payer.
Having said all that I do agree with the poster who said we ought to focus our outrage on the elites with power and responsibility, who persistently protect their own interests whilst egregiously harming those of "the people".
That does not mean the gf should be allowed to continue to abuse what has become a privilege that many needy people can only dream of. ie having a cheap and secure tenancy.

Whatever you decide to do, please do not pretend that you are doing it for any other reason than pure jealousy.

Have some balls about you too and tell your BIL what your plans are.

The taxpayer is funding her and she's making money too.

Oh, good grief.

First, we don't know if she's making money.

Second, how's the taxpayer funding her? If she's getting housing benefit, then yes she's being funded. If not - taxpayers are not funding her.

Do people here think social housing's free? It isn't. We pay rent.
Councils & housing associations are landlords like any other. The only difference is they don't make big profits like private landlords.

" TheRealAda You must be like her, bludging off the system. "

fuck you, Liz, I am not "bludging" off anyone.

What about you with your witchy face pressed up against other people's windows , checking what they are doing?.

Some goody two shoe do gooders out in force today. What ever your opinion ,what she is doing is against the rules of her agreement and therefore she should be reported. She's not living there and is subletting. Do you think if she phoned the council and told them of her intentions they would say ok, that's fine. No of course they bloody wouldn't.

It's housing for people in need. She doesn't need it.

" Some goody two shoe do gooders out in force today."

you can say that again....

I sublet from a council tenant. I was on the list (getting nowhere) and my friend of a friend lived with her BF when she was given a council property.

I rented from her for 2 years and didn't pay a penny over the cost (full rent as she was working and not on any benefits). She didn't make any money from me. She gave me somewhere affordable to live and I looked after her house.

As it so happens when I left she did hand back her tenancy as she was then married and moving away.

I don't think either of us did anything terrible. Although of course there are shades of grey to it. Had this FOAF been on benefits and making money out of subletting then that is not on.

goody two shoe do gooders

Yeah, those horrible people, doing good all over the place. Life would be so much better if everyone just got on with doing evil ...

"Do-gooder", the least insulting insult ever!

garlic 😂 I thought it better than fucking soft twats. They're not doing good by letting people get away with hogging a home owned by someone else and depriving others.

some im sure would feel very different if they or family members were living in a B&B or hostel waiting for the local LA to house them

completelyparanoid that's so wrong. You were on a list, fine but you cheated some one else out of a home that needed it more than you hence you had not been offered a place yet. You know it was wrong and selfish but seem almost proud of it.

GarlicStake Local authority tenants are taxpayer funded because the rents are so cheap the council makes little to no profit.
Houses and the land they are built on are huge capital assets, but local government can't realise their true value because they don't charge market rates.
This means council services have to be funded from other revenue streams, such as central government grants, council tax etc. Which are taxpayer funded!
Speaking for myself, it is not an attack or a criticism to describe something as taxpayer funded.
I am not trying to imply that the beneficiaries are scrounging or shirking or undeserving, nor any of the other sneery right wing attitudes usually intended by use of the phrase.
Inevitably I suppose, this distinction has not been clear, so fair enough.
In fact, I think we should shut down tax havens and close tax loopholes and make the 1% pay their fair share, so the country can have a massive public sector housebuilding boom and millions more of us can live in taxpayer funded homes.

Social housing is planned and built to cover its own costs in 20 years (with some variations), Lauder. After that, the rent takings go into the maintenance & building fund.

Our lovely government has been arsing about with this lately - they're trying to make all the social housing funds go broke - but it doesn't currently affect tenants already in situ.