Do you know anyone middle class?

[angelos02]

I don't. But my definition of middle class is those that go to work but don't need to.

Well Vag I suspect it's so that they can find a socially acceptable form of displaying their supposed superiority over those whom they consider their social/cultural/economic inferiors.

EllenDegenerate I did! In terms of the culture stuff, not the baby- in-Waitrose stuff, although I was listening to classical music at that age and indeed from much younger :)

Also I'm nowhere near as old as 42!!!

I know a couple who are very preoccupied with coming across as middle class-they are almost becoming a caricature of themselves

Irrespective of whether you did or not, most MC twenty two year olds are a Glastonbury drinking pints rather than dinner parties quaffing mojitos.

And I'm sorry but classical music/jazz is something your parents listened to, unless you studied A level music/played an instrument past Grade 5/ studied it at uni.

Your definition, whilst indeed charming a a somewhat whimsical is very person/ generation rather than class specific.

Thank you Massivestrumpet, that was interesting. I'd always thought that middle class was an educated class- people who learn in order to find a job where they're not just counting the hours until it's over. Take Ken Barlow in Coronation St, he was a classic boy from working class background who became "middle class".

Haven't RTFT.

I work even though I don't have to.

And to be honest, I probably would put us as pretty close to middle class, but I don't see that as a bad thing.

Well by that definition my DH is middle class as he doesn't need to work because of my income. If I didn't work then we'd lose the house eventually I suppose so I'm not middle class. Seems a bit unfair

I'm privately educated, have a cocker spaniel and do a lot of yoga. I'm going to a farmers' market in a bit. I'm middle class by any reasonable definition I think but I work full time - I have no independent income and don't particularly want any!

EllenDegenerate you are funny! How do you know what music my parents listened to? You really mustn't make such sweeping generalisations about everyone's musical taste :) To each his own...

Oh apologies MP but I thought that was the point of your original comment.
You made a sweeping generalisation, therefore inviting others, myself included, to counter with those of our own

Gosh Ellen what strange views about music choices.

My DD is 23 and she loves Jazz -she is going to a Jazz festival later this year.

I on the other hand am 53 and love loud rock music.

I don’t think age and music tastes have any bearing on what class you are.

Certain music genres are favoured by different classes. Metal appeals to lower middle class, from my observations (and based on a few studies of class or education and music preferences)

That God-awful club shit seems to boom out of a particular class of boy racer car.

And it's pretty obvious that listeners of Radio 3 are middle class. Classic FM lower middle class.

As has been explained up thread bluesky MP and I were merely exchanging rather sweeping generalisations at her instigatio.
And whilst it was rather diverting I don't for a moment doubt that your DD adores jazz or that you're perfectly entitled to claim the title of aging rocker

I actually agree that musical tastes have little to do with class. My FIL is a builder but he has Mozarts marriage of figaro on repeat in his van.
I've even heard his quasi falsetto rendition of 'voi che sapete '
(When he's in the back kitchen rolling a fag)

The whole "class" debate is a bit cringey.

I would never let the middle class darken my door. I'd maybe employ one as a butler though

EllenDegenerate chill out, I made a lighthearted post about what being middle class means to me. I've no desire to get into an argument with someone who appears to be a bit of a twerp so I'm trotting off to my coffee and Chopin now :)

Good.

Perhaps you'll now stop tediously and incessantly explaining yourself.

Lol @ Ken Barlow being middle class. He's not

Has anyone posted this yet?

www.ifs.org.uk/wheredoyoufitin/

We're elite according to that

Sorry, wrong link

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22000973

9th decile according to that. Means zip

Ridiculous definition, not that we should care about class anymore obvs. Some of the poorest people I know are titled upper class.

Apparently I'm established middle class.

I do need to work, though.

And I've met plenty of right wing middle class. You don't GDR to read The Guardian to be MC.