To worry about 3 yr olds wearing ties?

[thearty1]

AIBU worrying about the safety of 30 three years olds having to wear ties in their nursery class? This coming September's nursery class (where my DS will be starting) will be the first time where ties have become a compulsory part of the uniform.
The school is recovering from a bad offsted report, and has brought in a new head who is apparently trying to run a tight ship, and the new uniform rules come into effect this September.

This is my first child, who at 3 years old, along with his friends of the same age are a bit wobbly, like to play wrestle, get confused with sharing and other emotional issues. In a class of 30, I believe there will be one full time teacher and just 1 member of support staff.

Am I being unreasonable worrying about the safety of young children wearing ties? I'm thinking of questioning the school about it, but will the school just think I'm a troublesome mother before we've even started?

All the preschools round here were tracksuits as a uniform, they are non compulsory though, are you sure he has to wear it? Ds's primary school wear ties as do a lot of schools round here and I think it's ridiculous enough for 4 year olds never mind 3!

I'd cut it in half and velcro it. Keep it permanently done up in a tie knot. I wouldn't like it either. My 6 year old always comes home with his tie pulled too tight by another child. I wouldn't like it at all for a 3 year old.

do you know what the "consequences" of not wearing said tie are?

Dds lived in joggers and t shirts at pre school.

they should be comfy and free to run about.

Dh is a 37 year old grown bloody large man, and a bouncer. They don't wear proper ties at work because of people pulling on them/potential strangulation/danger aspect. I definitely wouldn't put one on a 3 year old.

If you think about it, the tie is an utterly pointless, ludicrous piece of clothing anyway. I'm so glad there's no expectation that women should wear them.

Changing for pe is going to be a nightmare. Nursery children should be running about. It's stupid making them wear a tie.

Ties are stupid
1:13 is, I think illegal at this age.

Check your priorities.

This sounds bonkers to me. Aside from the obvious risk (I'm quite bemused that this hasn't occurred to the HT) why do 3 year olds need to look like tiny adults? Half of them will probably spend most of their lives wearing shirts and ties and feeling bloody uncomfortable and miserable, so is it really necessary to kick this off at 3? Let children be children while they can.

1:13 is the correct ratio Bertrand.

Why does a 3yo eed to wear a fucking tie?
I'd look for another school. Because only shit-for-brains can think its a good idea.

I think uniform is VU, especially at 3!

DS wears a tie (elastic) - he's just 4. I thought it was ridiculous but it has been ok. I recommend M&S shirts as the collars are Velcro. Don't make the elastic too tight.
They wear long sleeved overalls for lunch and all messy play. They wear full uniform at the start of the week and tracksuits at the end and they tend to practice changing for PE at the end I think.
There are 22 of them and 3 adults.
He also wears shorts all year round and I think that's worse than the ties.

I wore a tie from 3.5 years. Never bothered me and I don't recall any problems with it.

Would it bother me if my kids were asked to wear one with their uniform? Not really but I would expect staff to help them when getting changed for/after PE and not that they could do it themselves. Unless they are the elastic ones.

DS is 3 and has an elastic tie for school. It's caused no problems. Staff ratios seem odd though. There are usually 3 or 4 adults in the room in their class of 25

Dd wore a tie at 3 but on elastic.

She is now in secondary and is a clip on. I didn't know any schools still had proper ties. All the ones in our uniform shop are clip on.

My school has this, elastic tie was never a problem except the elastic gets stretched! DD us in her second year with them, it's just part of dressing for school.
Try EBay, most school ties are a standard design.

Not sure how ties will improve their Ofsted report. Get the image thing. But there's a local Catholic school here quickly getting a bad reputation for all the atrocious behaviour from a large collection of its students. They also have a strict policy of ties with uniforms etc which obviously hasn't helped their problems. .

I'd be checking with the school OP and reassessing if this is still a good school for my ds - what are the other things they are putting in place to pull this Ofsted report up? Do you think they'll be effective? etc.

You should be able to buy the elasticated version depending on the colour. Or tie it up as normal and sew the knot then cut off the rest and thread elastic through. Don't see the problem with wearing ties my children wore then from Reception onwards.

Ask head and uniform shop why the ties aren't elastic or clip on. VU to put 3 year olds in ties anyway. They just collect food stains even in secondary schools!

If there are 30 in the class doing 15 hours though, they are not all going to be there together so it might be more like 15 children am/pm, one teacher and one ta.

Unless the poor teacher has 30 in the morning and 30 in the afternoon (think of the reports! The parent's evenings!)

I think I would be changing pre-school if my 3 year old HAD to wear a uniform let alone a tie.

She does to pre-school because she enjoys it and it gives me a break. I don't send her to be uniform ready. I already refuse to their t-shirts because I am happy sending her in as she is. So do other parents.

Uniform can wait until school

I wouldn't send mine to nursery with a tie on, he's very active and it would worry me. It's ridiculous for preschool kids to be asked to wear them anyway.
Surely uniform is optional at that age? Ds's nursery have jumpers and tshirts with the nursery/school logo on that you can buy if you want. Surely that would be more appropriate if they insist on uniforms?

My dd is 4 and has worn a tie (elastic) since she started nursery, and has had no problems with it but I wouldn't be happy with a normal tie. The nursery uniform isn't compulsory, I thought every nursery would be the same.

How can nursery uniform be compulsory?

DS's school have ties from nursery class but they are elastic. A lot of the children pull them and mess with them.

I do think it's ironic that there's no need for a tie if you're the Mayor of London or a Newsnight presenter, but you have to wear one if you are a 3yo doing painting and playdough at nursery.