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To wonder where the Queen is at this time of crisis

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Imperialleather2 · 26/06/2016 12:46

The political system in the UK seems to be in utter chaos.

Surely this is a time for the Queen to step up and 'steady the ship'.

We're.alawaya told that she is a constant through times of crisis and I really think as a nation we could do with some calming words from our head of.state.

Doesn't have to be political but something surely??

OP posts:

RegentsParkWolf · 26/06/2016 15:35

Perhaps one of the things that make the Queen a 'steadying influence' if that's what she is, is that she doesn't feel the need to jump in front of the press and make a statement every five minutes.

pigsDOfly · 26/06/2016 15:36

I don't give a damn about anything the queen has to say about the current situation tbh.

How is anything she has to say going to make any difference or make anything better? Do you think she's going to pour some sort of soothing balm over us all and make it all sweetness and light?

Anything she has to say is completely irreverent.

It's bad enough being treated like a bunch of stupid children by our elected politicians, I certainly don't think we need some over privileged out of touch old woman trying to tell us everything's going to be hunky dory when she's no idea what's she's talking about.

Up there in her ivory tower she has no idea of what it's like to live in this country as a normal person. What exactly would you like her to say OP?

MyMurphy · 26/06/2016 15:37

What crisis?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 26/06/2016 15:40

Busy not giving a shit, I imagine.

Won't even be moved to wonder in what possible way people 'in the north' think this is in any way going to be beneficial for them, as a normal person might.

pigsDOfly · 26/06/2016 16:11

Anything she has to say is irrelevant, that should be not irreverent

specialsubject · 26/06/2016 16:18

how delightful that someone has troubled to set up a twitter account that tweets the right number of 'bongs' on the hour...

meanwhile Her Maj has lived through a war at home and many abroad, has seen prime ministers and governments come and go and isn't allowed to comment anyway.

but if you are reading, ma'am, time for another cuppa?

MrsTerryPratchett · 26/06/2016 16:20

The big Ben clock twitter account has been around since 2009 and has only ever tweeted bongs every hour. On Friday it tweeted sad day for our country. Thank you for this!

Lilaclily · 26/06/2016 18:49

Said like a true Remainer. When working class people up North complain their wages have turned to shit, they're struggling to keep a roof over their heads or put food on the table and their kids can't get jobs or if they do them they're dead ends with no training; the response is put up, shut up and listen to your betters.

But as soon as a house sale falls through 'Where is the Queen? She must comment, I'm so traumatised, I'd already picked out curtains'.

Absolutely laughable

Where did i say I wasn't working class and up north ???

Is it only southerners who can buy houses now ??

Lilaclily · 26/06/2016 18:53

*Said like a true Remainer. When working class people up North complain their wages have turned to shit, they're struggling to keep a roof over their heads or put food on the table and their kids can't get jobs or if they do them they're dead ends with no training; the response is put up, shut up and listen to your betters.

But as soon as a house sale falls through 'Where is the Queen? She must comment, I'm so traumatised, I'd already picked out curtains'*

Absolutely laughable

Where did i say I wasn't working class and up north ???

Is it only southerners who can buy houses now ??

GabsAlot · 26/06/2016 19:35

she cant comment as with general elections it snot her place

SloppyDailyMailJournalism · 26/06/2016 19:37

Probably napping, she's 90. Surely this is time for Charles to take over now.

Seior · 26/06/2016 19:57

I suppose she could go on road trip around the UK and wave at the crowds, would that help everyone? I think one of the two princes should play their part; Harry could you get engaged engaged, or Wills do you fancy another baby?

birdsdestiny · 26/06/2016 20:04

And it's going to be so much better for those people up north now ( where I live incidentally) Boris etc will absolutely look after our interests. The youth club my child attends in one of the most deprived areas of the north, guess who it is funded by.

TutanKaDashian · 26/06/2016 20:16

Maybe she's on Gransnet? Look carefully for any suspicious comments

NerrSnerr · 27/06/2016 07:30

I'm guessing the people who say it's not a crisis are only looking as far as their own front door. They're not concerned that Northern Ireland will now need to negotiate their border and risk losing money/ jobs as many work over the border. What about Gibraltar? They recently voted against joint sovereignty with Spain but because of leaving the EU they may have no choice as they are heavily reliant on being able to work and trade with Spain.

But as long as you're ok where you live it's fine isn't it? Who gives a shit if you have ruined other British people's lives?

Littlegreyauditor · 27/06/2016 09:40

Agree NerrSnerr

As for the queen? She's in NI today and tomorrow.

sashh · 27/06/2016 10:58

Isn't she in NI today? That could be interesting.

AuntieStella · 27/06/2016 20:19

BBC article on the start of the visit.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-36635180

"Sinn Féin's Mr McGuinness, who first met the Queen exactly four years ago, told her was nice to see her again and asked if she was feeling well.
The Queen laughed as she replied: "Well I'm still alive anyway.""

I think there's only been the glad-handing so far, and don't know if she's due to make any public speeches.

LuluJakey1 · 27/06/2016 20:42

I don't think this in anything to do with the Queen.

TBH I felt the same way about people who voted Conservative last May as Remain voters feel about Leave voters.

I think what has emerged from last summer's election, from the election of Jeremy Corbyn as Labour Leader- when he gained 250,000 votes from members and the Parliamentary Labour Party didn't want him, and from the Brexit vote is that there is a large percentage of the UK electorate who feel totally disenfranchaised by the Conservatives, by Labour and by the EU. They don't feel any politicians are listening to them- and they are voters across the political spectrum which is what is unusual.

This is a huge opportunity for some politicians with a brain to seize the day and create something new and vibrant that does represent the views of the disenfranchised.

I voted to leave the EU and I did so because I am sick of politicians like Junkers- unelected, we can't remove him- dictating to us what we can and can't do in our own country. Cameron was humiliated by hm repeatedly and he made it clear on Thursday night that the best we would ever get was what we had. If the EU had shown any semblance of being open to negotiation earlier this year, I think people would have voted differently.

Nightstalker · 27/06/2016 20:50

I agree Lulu

Backingvocals · 27/06/2016 21:08

I was massively IN (my business depends on it) but I agree with Lulu. Juncker has overplayed his hand, we miscalculated and the result is massive geopolitical unrest. I'm hoping for a proper set of politicians to come along and set out a vision and lead us there.

People are so anti politicians but this is what they are for - leadership, vision, building cohesion from disparate views. We have been poorly served by the current slate on all sides.

BMW6 · 27/06/2016 21:19

Exactly lulu. In 1992 BEFORE the signing of the Maastricht Treaty every member country should have held referendums to ask their electorate whether they should be signed up to the EU with all that it entailed.
France did and agreed with a 52% vote. Denmark and Eire did but their result was No so they had to revote till they said yes..........

If we had been asked I have absolutely no doubt that it would have been a resounding NO by a large majority. That's why we weren't asked.

All these years I have been waiting for the chance to say No.

Looks like I wasn't the only one (perhaps that is why so many "oldies" voted No - they had been waiting too........).

Democracy is an absolutely fundamental Human Right. Countless thousands over hundreds of years have died to get us this precious Democracy.

The EU is NOT democratic. Their actions prove it. They are a dictatorship by committee.

DinosaursRoar · 27/06/2016 22:05

NerrSnerr - see, they actually don't have to do that yet. We've not triggered A50 yet, and might not. Right now, there's no urgency to any of this - of course some in Europe want us to rush, but can't make us and there's no need to. Lots of time for the Civil Service to look at all these issues and start drafting some suggestions for Ministers. Lots of time to debate what would be best for us that the other countries might be happy to sign up with. There's a potential crisis brewing, but it's not exactly hit.

Nothing needs to happen right now, Cameron's set out a timing so we're expecting a new PM in September, and he's made it clear he's not triggering A50, so it's the new PM's job, should they want to, end of September/start of October - assuming they don't decide to trigger a General Election firsts, pushing the whole thing back another 6 months. It is unlikely that unofficial talks won't be happening right now, there just won't be official unofficial talks...

Plus Gibraltar - no one in Spain is all that fussed right now, they've not had a government since last year, and the latest General Election still hasn't produced a majority for anyone. That's a crisis, what we've got is a bit of an akward situation that's fixable.

justbogoff · 27/06/2016 22:17

Of course there's an urgency.
We need stability.
Have you seen the £, just because Boris says the currency is stable don't make it the truth.

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