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Farage wants to end the NH and relax gun ban

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prepschoolinsanity · 25/06/2016 19:15

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/nigel-farage-nhs-might-have-to-be-replaced-by-private-health-insurance-9988904.html

all you idiots that voted for this becuase you 'want to end immigration' - which you have not ended - I am so angry with you. You've destroyed this country.

And destroyed it for my children, so many other people's children who did not want this - 75% of under 24s voted against.

And looking at the comments thread in the Daily Mail, the Brexit heartland, I see so many people regretting the vote because 'things weren't explained to them properly' - which also matches the fact that people with lower educational attainment voted out.

so I'm furious that older, ill educated people who couldn't be bothered to find out the facts have decided on my son's future and have ruined it.

You voted out what you think is an 'elite' and are about to turn us into something worse than America

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WorraLiberty · 25/06/2016 20:40

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itsmine · 25/06/2016 20:45

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SoupDragon · 25/06/2016 20:49

Some idiots don't understand how to use the topics on MN.

Stratter5 · 25/06/2016 20:54

Some of us have very real and genuine reasons to be afraid. We have, potentially, lost a lot of rights and security. I can't work, I am sick enough to need a blue badge, I struggle to do any more than the basics of keeping my house clean, and on a good day can just about make it to to bottom of the drive. I rely on benefits, and the thought of Boris, Gove, or IDS being PM without the brakes of EU legislation is frankly terrifying for me, even worse than Cameron. None of them are exactly known for their compassion, decency, or in the case of Gove, ability.

Togaparties · 25/06/2016 20:57

ODFOD

SaucyJack · 25/06/2016 20:59

"Power resides only where men believe it resides. A shadow on the wall, yet shadows can kill. And ofttimes a very small man can cast a very large shadow." ~~Varys.

The trouble with threads like this is that they reinforce the mistaken notion that Nigel Farage's personal opinions are of any more significance than any other member of the general public.

What did you all have for dinner? We had pizza and salad, followed by ice-cream.

whois · 25/06/2016 20:59

Farrage is a nothing. He has no power unless he is elected to be an MP.

FurryLittleTwerp · 25/06/2016 21:01

The NHS is doomed - it's just a matter of when - they don't want to save it - too many fingers in private healthcare pies in Westminster

I feel sorry for anyone who voted out on the strength of the "promises"

I voted in - so much for that

Believeitornot · 25/06/2016 21:01

I don't think the leave vote automatically means that farage is going to win elections.

Although sadly we are ushering in tories like Boris and Gove. Although hope that May gets the PM job.

However austerity is going to be horrible second time around so buckle your seat belts.

MarshaMallow84 · 25/06/2016 21:04

I guess one of the (only) benefits of leaving the EU will be that Farage and all the UKIPers will loose his job their jobs as MEPs?

JeanGenie23 · 25/06/2016 21:06

Boris said he would allow Farage to join his party if he wanted, apparently. This could be mindless gossip however.

He has no power in the sense that he isn't Prime Minister, but enough people listen to him, so in that sense he is powerful. I fear him, I think he is a dangerous, right wing spanner in the works.

JeanGenie23 · 25/06/2016 21:08

I just hope those that did vote to leave based on the promises, now know that Boris and Farage are starting to back track. The Sun newspaper (big leave supporters) haven't been reporting this.

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 25/06/2016 21:13

"An MP close to where I live and in a town that was 58% out said that the EU had rescued her town loads of times with funding but the people didn't know this."

It's actually not that easy to get a message like this out, it's not really fair to shoot the, er, messenger.

It's not like a national newspaper is going to point it out, TV has to be 'unbiased', and leaflets through the door are expensive and labour-intensive. I worked for Remain in my city, and we could only afford (volunteers and money) to leaflet the areas we thought most likely to be friendly, demographically.

What would you have done?

Stratter5 · 25/06/2016 21:17

Farrage is a nothing. He has no power unless he is elected to be an MP.

I wish that was true. Unfortunately, unlike most members of the public, he gets the opportunity to have his voice heard through many mediums. And people listen. You only have to stand in a shop queue round here to know that.

He is not the insignificant, powerless buffoon people are making him out to be. He's dangerous.

Brexit · 25/06/2016 21:17

Calm the fuck down

And if I read one more comment on here about the intelligence of leave voters I'll, I'll, I'll, put the kettle on.

Stratter5 · 25/06/2016 21:19

That's interesting Boulevard, and explains why we heard virtually nothing from Remain here, it would have been futile, given the 70% Leave vote.

JeanGenie23 · 25/06/2016 21:24

Boulevard- interesting post, and I agree. There was lots of scare mongering from both camps, let's be far, but the leavers were very good at worrying the average joe, convinving them that they will be far worse off than they already are. It's hard to hear anything else after that once you have been panicked.
Of course no one has a crystal ball so there was a certain amount of 'guessing' what the future would actually hold, but to do a 360 on what you promised, is low. So many people regret their choice. So many people didn't think their leave vote would make a difference. It does make me wonder, if those protest voters had abstained would we be in the same position?

Stratter5 · 25/06/2016 21:34

Great, so not only have they wiggled out of their pledge to spend the money saved on the NHS, they're now showing you what they're really like.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/eu-referendum-brexit-boris-johnson-vote-leave-leaders-have-advocated-charging-for-nhs-and-cutting-a6986631.html

Be car ego what you wish for, for it may come true.

Stratter5 · 25/06/2016 21:34

*careful.

7Days · 25/06/2016 21:38

If enough people spoil their votes, does that trigger something? Like a redrafting and another vote.

Horse has bolted, I know, but just out of interest.

JeanGenie23 · 25/06/2016 21:44

Well 7days that's why that petition is circling for a second referendum, a rematch so to speak. But will it happen in reality, I doubt it.

GhostofFrankGrimes · 25/06/2016 22:21

No power?

He's been banging on about leaving the EU for years and on friday got his wish. It was Farage celebrating outside parliament not Johnson, IDS or Gove.

Imagine how much power he will have when he becomes an MP.

Flumplet · 25/06/2016 22:24

*You do know Nigel Farage has no say (bar his vote in the general election) in running this country? UKIP has 1 MP.

A vote to leave the EU was not a vote for UKIP.*

This.

JeanGenie23 · 25/06/2016 22:28

Absolutely flumpet.

But I know from video footage of interviews of voters speaking yesterday, that they voted leave because they don't like Cameron, and then regretted it when the results came out. So sadly people did vote on the basis of who they like/dislike Sad

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