To ask what people mean by 'educated?'

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All I have seen on posts regarding the refurendum vote are people stating how 'educated' they were in their decision, versus those who weren't. I am interested to know how you define 'educated?'

Are we talking, you read a newspaper, a leaflet that came through the door and you watched Eddie Izzard vs Nigel Farage on Question Time 'educated?'
Or, you have a political degree and are a member of a party 'educated?'

For me, educated about the issue

I have people on my Facebook who voted leave.

2 of them I know researched the issue, looked at the evidence and came to a different conclusion to me. I hav no problem with them or their right to vote as they did.

A lot appear to have no knowledge of the arguments, have not researched anything but have voted leave either out of a fear of forriners or some vague and undefined notion about "taking our country back"

This group I have a huge problem with and consider uneducated about the issue.

For me, this should never have been put to a public vote, but there we are.

Talking about my daily experience, my working experience isn't ignorance. It's a life I am living
Come and look after my daughter for a day if you want limited or come out with us for the day, see if you can see it too.or you could just come out with me, I'm a hapless fool and see how people talk to me?

I voted remain btw as did the rest of my family. We all understand democracy even if we don't agree with the result

I was a retail manager btw for a decade, a good one. I've met plenty of wc people north and south to base my experience on.

I'm sick of people being vain snobs. Everyone is entitled to live and work and vote in this country it's a bloody good thing. No one is better than anyone else (within normal moral guidelines)
We really have no chance if we can't get on with one another

I'm sorry, is staying in the EU linked to getting rid of the monarchy? How have I missed this?

''ordinary and decent' like farage

It's so kind and decent of Farage to say he hopes the entire EU collapses. So magnanimous to identify his place to declare what's best for all of the EU member states, and to wish UK uncertainty, pessimism about international collaboration & general instability upon them. Farage is also clearly a great choice to negotiate the exit terms with EU & future trade deals. Woohoo.

Farage is a self serving twat

to me it means degree level education but has no bearing on intelligence.

Quite lem and that includes me :)
I'm really sorry for ranting everyone, I just hate this divisive crap and now I've engaged it in myself and now I feel bad even though I'm bloody upset of being spoken to like I'm thick every bloody day.
I apologise, I'll move house
I am sorry I've offended people with my rant
I'm the most impulsive person I know but I'm not naturally nasty or ignorant. I think too much about other people
Sorry :( goodbye

Actually, I agree that 'educated' in this context means 'educated about the issue at hand', nought to do with formal education at all.

Farage, btw, is an odious cunt.

I'm sorry, is staying in the EU linked to getting rid of the monarchy? How have I missed this?

Don't be disingenuous. Of course it isn't directly.

I've drawn a parallel because both involve large amounts of money being spent on what some people call 'undemocratic institutions' and the supposed redirection of that money toward more 'worthy causes'

Farage, btw, is an odious cunt.

That, we can all agree with.

Surely educated means somebody who can read and write or can understand the issues.

That, we can all agree with.

Let me rephrase.

That, we should all agree with.

I think it means having critical and analytical thinking skills. So that when you read or hear something you don't take it at face value but conduct a little research about it and look at it from conflicting perspectives.
For a lot of people these skills develop during a degree where these skills are taught and used. For others they develop through being well read, naturally curious or from having life experiences that teach them not to take things at face value.

Well being taken in by 'Taking back Control' and believing that the rich fuckers parroting this shit intend to improve anyone's lives but their own is my definition of ill-educated.

Sadly, time will be the 'teacher'.

Not according to another thread muskey

It means
Your social class
Secondary and further education
Higher education (and whether it was red brick or poly Inc red brick and rg)
Post grad education

And no vain snobbery doesn't exist, it's just my ignorance lol
I did say goodbye

Oops I posted higher and further the wrong way round :) love to you all x

Everyone is entitled to live and work and vote in this country it's a bloody good thing. No one is better than anyone else (within normal moral guidelines) We really have no chance if we can't get on with one another

I agree with this Owllady but I can't agree with the rest of your post.

For a start, I know of at least five working class people in the South East because I grew up in a council house with them.

Are you suggesting that every single person in the South East has been rude to you at work because you were born north of Birmingham and that no one there has a child with special needs?

Call me a hapless fool, but I find that very hard to believe. Do you think today's issues might have made you a bit overwrought?

In this context educated is substituted for privileged.

Yes, I think it has limited and I apologise

Being overwrought is horrible isn't it?
Everyone is against
I'm nice, why aren't other people
Where are my insecurities, I'll fetch them. Puts chip on shoulder. Posts.
Again I cringe and apologise
Wtf is wrong with me ?

I do want to move to rural Wales though. Maybe I'm looking for any excuse

Rural Wales is lovely.

Or come to rural Scotland

Nothing wrong with being overwrought for a while until your head has caught up with events, Owllady

I don't think 'educated' in this context means 'privileged' btw. I suppose it depends on whether you think critical thinking/analysis is a privilege.

Early wine o'clock?

I could read between the lines, of the lies/manipulation of the truth, that both sides did.
Does that make me educated? Do I win a prize?

It depends which way you voted, Oblomov

That's okay owllady. I'm often overwrought too, but just not tonight. I was a bit stunned when I switched the telly on this morning, though