To ask if you agree with this statement?

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I know, I know, I know... I'm just interested if you do and if so how old you are?

This is the last 'fuck you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die"

I do and I'm in my early 20's

Most of the boomers I know voted remain.

I'm 29 and kind of on the fence about thus quote. I don't think it's malicious, but I do find that attitude of very persistant insistance that we are just soft for finding finances hard in the face of all evidence that actually we are at a huge disadvantage compared to boomers of the same age hard to swallow.

It's the belief trumps facts thing again isn't it?

I'm 49 and agree with a lot of this (technically I'm Generation X but had free education and cheaper housing). It isn't wrong of us to enjoy our homes but it's dreadful to see us denying those benefits to others.
Unfortunately, until younger people start voting in large numbers and finding ways to exert serious political pressure I don't see things changing too much.

Not intentionally- my baby boomer DP voted remain and are fully aware of the good fortune they had in pensions and housing. They are really upset.

30s yes

ExcuseMyEyebrows

No petal, you seem to have missed the fact that I said in general terms.

Like when people say "Men get paid more than women, get promoted to senior management more than women", they don't mean "every single man in the world gets paid and promoted more than every single woman".

HTH.

Also want to echo what others are saying about "not all baby boomers" etc. Spoken to some lovely people today of all ages; a huge number of them baby boomers, who voted remain and have apologised for the outcome of the vote, and comiserated with us.

I agree but I don't think was intentional.

BB generation were and continue to be a very privileged group. I think they have a hard time seeing that and it's not helped by the "youth" being derogatory towards them.

I think the hate directed towards the BB is legitimate but our generations would be better off demanding a better future for our youth. Our energies would be better spent looking forward rather than being bitter at a whole generation who will never acknowledge it's privilege. It would be nobler, and show we are not of the same mind set as our parents.

We should be looking to make tomorrow better for everyone not bitching out our pension rights being stripped away (despite that being very fucking legitimate).

"Wise men plant trees who's shade they will never know" Some smart Chinese guy from ages ago

Mid 20's me and all my friends voted exit, it's wrong to think just old people voted out.

You have to consider where we live most entry levels jobs are taken by immigrates who work under the counter for less then min wage we cannot get jobs.

There is a reason degree educated people don't see a problem with immigration cause the immigrants take the low level jobs they with degrees are safe, it effect those of use now on zero hours, the plumbers and trades people.

And here you are with you agism cuase the vote didn't go your way. And you house might decrease in price, well we can't get mortages cause immigration forced zero hours on us and trade people cannot compete with them working cash in hand then sending the money home.

I am 50 I voted remain, I never went to university let alone benefited from it free. Hardly anyone my age did, and I went to a grammar school.

I bought a house yes, but I started saving for the deposit at 18 whilst working full time instead of partying and doing a pointless degree in media studies. Our house was a very modest 2up 2 down in Yorkshire, but to buy it we experienced several difficult years when interest rates went as high as 10% I have paid into my pension despite feeling I couldnt afford it since I was 19. Our house wasn't fully decorated or furnished for TEN years, but it was ours despite the squares of second hand carpet on the floor that didn't meet the edges.

I have never benefited from tax credits when bringing my children up and only had 14 weeks paid maternity leave before I had to go back to work through necessity. The best part of my wage went on nursery fees and and there were no vouchers or rebates for child care.

You are generalising, not everyone of a certain age has either voted OUT or screwed you over as you suggest.

Just as not everyone your age grew up with a sense of entitlement, something that I don't believe can be said of my generation.

Yes, I agree. My mum voted leave and was very happy today. Although she seems to think it's all about immigration. My dad voted remain though, and he is a very typical baby boomer - owns his house outright, worked in the same job for nearly 40 years, retiring next year at the age of 61. He was originally going to vote leave but decided to educate himself on the real facts and was very surprised at all the lies being spouted by the leave campaign.

Well said murphys my parents where like you worked hard for everything they had under very hard conditions, my dad was a tiler and painter, he lost his job when the polish came and worked under min wage for cash in hand not paying taxes.

MurphysChild you are not technically a baby boomer though as you are 50 so where not born between 1946 and 1964.

My DH counts as a baby boomer by 3 weeks but is very much a remain vote and closer to Generation X than the boomers. His parents are very much the stereotypical baby boomer generation. They did vote to leave and a lot of it was to do with 'the NHS overstretched by immigrants', 'the jobs have all been taken by immigrants', 'there are no houses because of immigrants' etc etc. Basically everything wrong with the country is the fault of immigrants, the EU and occasionally if it suits them the SNP.

They think they are doing us and thier grandchildren a favour by voting to leave and can't understand why we have voted to remain. Our opinions are treated like we are children who don't know what we are talking about and it's caused a lot of friction between DH (and his siblings) and them.

Adding to this, those of you complaining need to make YOUR future instead of blaming someone else for it without putting in the effort.

We didn't have ours handed to us from the previous generation, we didn't drive nice leased cars or go to Zante with our friends, decorate our homes from the Next Directory on credit or have acrylic nails, takeaways every week and a makeup bag full of Mac.

I am gutted we decided to vote Brexit, but I will make the best of it instead of sitting back and blaming.

Grow up

Evening all. Just a reminder that we're happy for there to be a debate about how different age groups and demographic groups voted but please remember that within every age group, not everyone voted the same way, so if you could refrain from sweeping statements and generalisations we think that will make for a happier discussion. Thank you!

I agree. Im early 20s.
Also think it's interesting how it's supposedly our generation who are selfish, materialistic and thoughtless and yet it's not us who wrecked the economy and it's us who are suffering the consequences.

whilst working full time instead of partying and doing a pointless degree in media studies.

You are generalising,

MurphysChild I get where your coming from I really do but you've shot yourself in the foot with those statements don't you think?

As for buying a house - you must realise that the massive increase in house prices has benefited those who bought decades ago compared with young people today? I've saved £20k by not going out and parting (not that I ever did) and the bank will give me a mortgage but in my area, where my DH works and my DC's go to school there is no way we'll be able to buy.

It's not about saving for a deposit but rather the pice of properties now. They are our of reach.

I am trying but the way of life my parents had is luxury to me. This isn't the fault of the BB generation completely but surly you can understand , even adjusting for inflation, that a house bought for £6000 in the seventies that is now £360k is beyond reach and massively inflated . And new builds aren't much cheaper.

As for tax credits - income hasn't increased that much but the cost of living has. I believe that is what tax credits are for.

I appreciate your take on the matter though. You are right that when times were tough you dealt with it. But consider that times are tough now. When are they not! Please understand that I'm dealing with it to, in my 30's, two children and renting.

The baby boomers are very selfish, they have a triple lock on their income. why do they deserve that?. Its a burden hung around the necks of today's youth. Why should we accept it, we did not agree to it?

Acrylic nails more than make up for the widening gulf between income and house prices. Totes. A matter of twenty quid versus hundreds of thousands. If only people didn't eat at Zante they could absolutely save up enough for a house when a deposit now is massively more than a house was 50 years ago.

Please excuse typos all over the place.

I'm a Baby Boomer.

I voted Remain and so did everyone I know of my generation and older.

As did the majority of my fellow Scots.

Disagree. Late 30's

This isn't a game of kerplunk. Where people are having a minor paddy because they didn't win this round. This is peoples lives, their business's, homes, jobs, people are bound to be upset
Where did I say it was a game?
It's not a game and it is also my life and the life of my children. and one day hopefully my grandchildren.
I wish we could go back to when things were better.
No one should have to work a zero hour contract. We need a better manufacturing base, that brings solid jobs.
We need to train our own nurses so that we don't have to bring in Nurses from the Philippines and Brazil and other places.
We are still able to stand on our own two feet. We just need to get on with it.

they could absolutely save up enough for a house when a deposit now is massively more than a house was 50 years ago

Absolutely!

Like I said above I've saved 20k but given our income (so a realistic mortgage repayment) I'm looking at houses below £100k.

There are out there but far from where Dh works, in the stix, and schools aren't great.

Houses stopped being places to live and have become magical money shining machines. You can see why people think greed is behind it.

I disagree with the statement (53 and voted remain), because I don't think that was the intent behind most leave votes, but I think that this is a bad outcome and I worry for future generations.