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To ask if you agree with this statement?

106 replies

AShadowLurkingInTheShadows · 24/06/2016 16:46

I know, I know, I know... I'm just interested if you do and if so how old you are?

This is the last 'fuck you' from the baby boomers. They took the secure corporate and government jobs with the guaranteed pay rises and final salary pension schemes and benefitted from property they bought cheap and sold dear. They burnt the bridges behind them by colluding with the dismantling of the very things that had brought them prosperity. Their last act will be to burn the economy before they die"

I do and I'm in my early 20's

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Whendoesitstop · 24/06/2016 18:23

Agree. Late 30s.

AShadowLurkingInTheShadows · 24/06/2016 18:57

Squinkies

This isn't a game of kerplunk. Where people are having a minor paddy because they didn't win this round. This is peoples lives, their business's, homes, jobs, people are bound to be upset

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EarthboundMisfit · 24/06/2016 19:01

I agree. I'm 35.

FuckOffJeffrey · 24/06/2016 19:11

Agree but I don't think it was intentional. To be honest if the situation was similar today, many of this generation would be buying up cheap houses and taking secure government jobs with pay rises and final salary pensions.

I also think a lot of them voted to leave under the (dis)illusion that it would return Britian to the way it was when they were young.

I am in my early 30's.

Donatellalymanmoss · 24/06/2016 19:17

Yes and no. 40. Agree with the view of in action but not intent. I honestly think the vast majority just don't realise that the opportunities they had just aren't open to young people today. Many will have had their own struggles in life and not recognise that they were fortunate enough to have benefitted from generally favourable economic circumstances.

BlunderWomansCat · 24/06/2016 19:20

DM voted out.
Mil voted stay.
Same age so 50/50

ExcuseMyEyebrows · 24/06/2016 19:26

Never heard so much ageist bile in my life.

You don't know a thing about the lives of people of that generation.

Out2pasture · 24/06/2016 19:26

Maybe the boomers remember those good jobs and want them back for their children and grandchildren? I want more for mine than zero hours/on call/causal underemployment.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 24/06/2016 19:30

What a fucking horrible thread.

SquidgeyMidgey · 24/06/2016 19:30

*I don't think it's malicious, and I don't think many of them even realise how privileged they have been,and how much harder they have made it for the younger generations, but broadly, yes, I agree.

Early/Mid 40s. I'm probably old enough to have escaped the worst of the pain, to have had many privileges myself such as free uni and lower house prices, but I do really worry for my children.*
This

AyeAmarok · 24/06/2016 19:34

I agree, but I think (hope) it was through ignorance rather than malice.

Mid 30s.

TheUnseenAcademic · 24/06/2016 19:36

Emotionally, yes that does resonate with me (mid 30s). BUT my parents and almost everyone else I personally know of their generation (FIL excepted) voted Remain and are devastated by the result. I now feel angry and upset for them at the bitterness and anger that is being directed towards their generation, when they are as upset and worried about the future as the rest of us.

TheUnseenAcademic · 24/06/2016 19:36

Emotionally, yes that does resonate with me (mid 30s). BUT my parents and almost everyone else I personally know of their generation (FIL excepted) voted Remain and are devastated by the result. I now feel angry and upset for them at the bitterness and anger that is being directed towards their generation, when they are as upset and worried about the future as the rest of us.

TheUnseenAcademic · 24/06/2016 19:37

Sorry- phone malfunction.

HanYOLO · 24/06/2016 19:41

My 78 year old mother voted in, because she wanted the same freedom to travel for her grandchildren as she enjoyed herself (after growing up in a nissen hut... after being bombed out of the Gorbals). She's perhaps too old to qualify as a baby boomer.

Many of the baby boomers I know simply do not realise how fortunate their lives have been compared to young people today. I don't think they bear the young any illwill, and perhaps even believe they are acting in their best interests. So yes, and no. 40s and feeling it.

AyeAmarok · 24/06/2016 19:41

You don't know a thing about the lives of people of that generation.

Well, we do actually, in general terms.

We know that the biggest % of leave voters were over 65.

We know they have the charmed pensions, final salary and state pensions earlier than today's workers will get, with the triple lock security etc, that today's youth have had to sacrifice their own pensions to allow them to keep.

We know they enjoyed excellent job security in comparison to what people face today.

House prices...

Free university education...

Etc

All things that the 30s-and-under today will now find it 100 times more difficult to get.

CesareBorgiasUnicornMask · 24/06/2016 19:42

I agree with the overall statement but also feel it wasn't intentional. I am generally speaking a fan of the argument that incompetence does far more harm in all areas of life than active malevolence though...

Mid-20s.

LassWiTheDelicateAir · 24/06/2016 19:45

No, I don't know any baby boomers who voted leave

Nor me. I'm 57. I voted remain.


KitKat1985 · 24/06/2016 20:00

Yes but I don't think it was intentional.

Adnerb95 · 24/06/2016 20:03

I'm a baby boomer and I'm thoroughly ashamed of the selfishness of older voters who took no account of what the younger generation wanted, before deciding how to vote.
This is not my future - it is my children's future and the only thing that could possibly have persuaded me to vote Leave would have been if the under 40s were strongly in favour of Brexit.
This is appalling.

Dontyoulovecalpol · 24/06/2016 20:04

I agree they've screwed us over, I don't think it was intentional or malicious. Late 20s

^ this. They're a very selfish generation overall.

OvariesBeforeBrovaries · 24/06/2016 20:05

Half-agree. They have absolutely screwed us over, but I don't think they were malicious - they were selfish and self-serving. It's a thin line, but a line nonetheless.

TSSDNCOP · 24/06/2016 20:05

My parents voted remain. They worked fucking hard and took nothing even when dad was made redundant and they often didn't eat dinner so we wouldn't go without. They're using the equity in their house now to help them stay at home in their old age.

They don't take out anywhere near all the 50 year old police officers, nurses and teachers I know who were hanging on in there for their pensions.

polyhymnia · 24/06/2016 20:07

Exactly Adner. I'm also a boomer, recognise every day how lucky I've been and am ashamed of all my contemporaries who seemed to care so little for their DCs' generation and those to follow. I want to go up to younger people and say please don't think we all voted so mindlessly.

ExcuseMyEyebrows · 24/06/2016 20:08

So AyeAmarock all 'baby boomers' are the same.

And of course you know people of that generation are all rolling in money, went to university, own their own (enormous) homes and have huge pensions.

I despair of the ignorance shown on here sometimes.

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