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to think NC chickens should have all their nicknames exposed?

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 23/06/2016 10:08

I frequent another site with the ability to make certain posts "incognito" if you need to post anonymously. But if someone misuses that power, the admin exposes their poster name.

The recent thread about disabled toilets made me think. Why not expose people who name change so they can say "controversial" and "petty" things that would tarnish their "mumsnet" reputation?

I'm not talking about trolls who post horrible offensive crap to get a rise. I mean people who name change because they want to say something petty and nasty but still wanna get patted on the back a day later for being nice.

Maybe certain topics that ALWAYS get nasty (like disabled toilets/parking/autistic children in your class etc) should be high alert topics. And if you start a goady thread on them, mumsnet exposes all of your prior usernames.

So next time a disabled person asks an able bodied parent to leave a disabled bathroom, they won't gleefully rush home to mumsnet and namechange to trash them because the price may be too high?

What do you think?

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Sparklingbrook · 23/06/2016 16:55

Hide Thread and Hide Topic are great functions. People should use them more IMO.

A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 23/06/2016 16:58

EverySongbirdSays

You know what: you're right. It would probably on balance be too harmful.

Sorry, guys I thought it might be a possible solution because people would be incentivized not to post goady shit due to the need for anonymity.

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Samcro · 23/06/2016 17:00

A11TheSmallTh1ngs did you get your name from the blink 182 song?

A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 23/06/2016 17:01

katemiddletonsnudeheels

I agree that dissent is often not tolerated on mumsnet. And, for some reason, the same thread can go completely different ways depending on the first 3 or so posts.

But I don't think these are genuine because if they were, they wouldn't be phrased so carefully. It's the people who accidentally say something offensive or who genuinely believe something different who just say it straight. These posts are a bit too calculated and the poster takes the time to namechange.

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katemiddletonsnudeheels · 23/06/2016 17:18

I don't know, A11

I don't personally believe that the OP of the 'swimming pool' thread was goading. Neither do Mumsnet it seems.

The problem is, and I feel awkward asking this myself, but there are going to be hundreds of times, thousands of times, 'NT' life will intermix with those with a disability or special needs, and there may be times when someone needs to ask how best to approach a situation that's potentially difficult or awkward. I mean, as an example 'my child is being thumped and kicked by another child who may or may not have special needs but what should I be doing as a parent?' That's not goading, or at least I don't think it is personally - some may disagree.

The ones about 'what should I do if a wheelchair user gets on a bus and I have a pram' - well that's just ignorant, I mean, I honestly, seriously, can't think of anyone I know who wouldn't fold the pram immediately.

But in a rather clumsy way I do think there are occasions where I might think someone with a disability might be unreasonable but this in no way shows hatred or discrimination because of their disability, if you follow me!

MrsHathaway · 23/06/2016 17:23

Meant to add, surely it's possible to make it so posters can only use one name on a thread though?

This has been discussed eleventy-six times on Site Stuff but it's prioritised somewhere below the Gin emoticon. It would benefit the nc-to-ask-sensitive-question posters as well as reducing sockies.

Pagwatch · 23/06/2016 17:33

Kate

The thing is, if someone genuinely has a question would they post in AIBU? Why would you not post quietly in an area where you might get sensible replies rather than attract the disability bashing types?

I have read many threads, and contributed to them, where exactly that problem has happened and the op has had good advice.

My issue is where the thread is not designed to ask about anything. Where it is just recounting what were obviously highly unusual circumstances and sumpky asking people to judge who was in the wrong.

Is there really anyone who couldn't predict exactly how that type of thread will go? Is it really difficult to consider that if someone's behaviour seems extraordinary and inexplicable when they are trying to access a space catering for those with disability, that their behaviour may be affected by disability . And that calling that person names and being rude about them for not acting in a socially appropriate way is patently ridiculous?

I have experienced odd moments in life, as we all have. I don't trot them all out on mumsnet of the circumstances could easily be spun into an incredibly negative stereotype by those who would wish to do so.

MiffleTheIntrovert · 23/06/2016 17:52

Kate I have also been on a number of threads (I think in SN and chat) where an OP has sensitively asked for advice - for example someone inviting a DC with SN to a birthday party wanted advice on how to ask the parent to stay with the child.

These threads are fine, I think it's great we can contribute to increasing knowledge and awareness.

Starting an AIBU with a neon sign flash of DISABLED or DISABLED TOILETS or BLUE BADGE AIBU etc are simply a goady call to arms - we all know this although Pag said it much better than me

Don't people realise we are used to so much discriminatory shit in RL we recognise it here?

katemiddletonsnudeheels · 23/06/2016 17:54

I know, and I don't want to minimise those experiences Flowers

PresidentOliviaMumsnet · 23/06/2016 22:09

Thanks for the thoughts here -as you'll know we are doing our damnedest on all of this but some of this may take some time.

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 24/06/2016 06:11

I feel so sorry for Mumsnet

There are more important things in the world than offensive trolls - and MN is no better than Twitter

Can't we just ignore them ? If someone posts something g offensive they have done it to inflame so ignore them and focus on something more meaningful - rather than 100 posts of people getting upset and winding each other up ?

It's waste of time , energy and emotion

MrsHathaway · 24/06/2016 09:59

There are more important things in the world than offensive trolls - and MN is no better than Twitter

I live outside a town where a teenage death has occurred because of online bullying. It's a poison.

MrsDeVere · 24/06/2016 15:53

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A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 25/06/2016 16:19

Samcro

Yes Smile

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SamWheat · 26/06/2016 15:31

I'm a regular poster and have been for years, but frequently name change for more anonymity. Nothing to do with hiding behind a new identity to troll. Confused
I must have gone through loads of different monikers over the years. I think it's only sensible to name change every now and again.
Plus, I get bored after a while and fancy a change.....

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 26/06/2016 16:03

They do a lot of damage and they hurt people . I 10000% agree

But this twat that started this thread ? We should have just ignored her as I just see people get more upset and more angry through engaging with them - feel like a waste

But agree troll are toxic and pervasive

stopfuckingshoutingatme · 26/06/2016 16:09

Not this thread - the One that upset ppl about disabled loo - oooops

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