to say the EU are telling us they have us by the balls in tonight's announcement.

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36599300
BBC News Tonight

'Speaking on the eve of the referendum, European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker said the UK would not get a better deal than the one already negotiated by Prime Minister David Cameron.

Leave supporter Boris Johnson the former mayor of London said the remarks showed Mr Cameron's belief that the UK could achieve further reform to immigration rules from within the EU were a "sham, snare and a delusion".

Mr Juncker made it clear there would be no scope for further negotiations over better terms to try to keep the UK on board.
"I have to add that the British policymakers and the British voters have to know there will be no kind of any renegotiation," he told reporters after talks with new Austrian Chancellor Christian Kern.
"We have concluded a deal with the prime minister, he got the maximum he could receive, we gave the maximum we could give.
"So there will be no kind of renegotiation, nor on the agreement we found in February, nor as far as any kind of treaty negotiations are concerned. Out is out.'

Pretty clear then. Whatever rubbish deal we have now we are stuck with. They will continue to dictate to us on trade deals, immigration and the European Union definition of Human Rights.

They have us by the balls and intend to squeeze them!

But Farage won't be in charge will he? Nor will Boris. CAmeron will, or whoever takes his place as leader. (I'd like Rees-Mogg over Gove, who seems to be lots of people's first choice, round here anyway.) I don't see Farage having any more power than he does now, why would he? Not all Brexiters are racist, honestly. Boris will still be who he is, whoever he is.

Also, I don't understand why other EU countries wouldn't trade with us or we with them.

In the debates, it seemed to me that the Brexit side behaved better, while the remainers catcalled, interrupted, screeched, obfuscated. Brexit side shut up and waited for their turn - mostly.

However, I still didn't get the sort of info I wanted from them, either.

The company I work for does business inside and outside of the EU and there is no difference whatsoever - the client sets us up as a supplier, the client raises a purchase order, we provide the service, we raise an invoice to the client. With some countries (e.g. Indonesia, Mexico) it takes a while to get the payment from the client, but no longer than most of the very large companies in this countries who make their clients wait 90 days + for payment. We might have to apply for Visas to visit some countries but this is not difficult and we pass the cost of the visa and time spent to the client. Often the clients will obtain the visa and arrange the travel for us.

Additionally I have lived in Europe and Asia. When moving to Europe (for employment reasons) we had to go to the police station to apply for residence permits, this involved the whole family being photographed and finger printed (including our six week old baby). Every time I took one of the children (three under 6) to the doctors I had to produce my passport, proof of local social security payments and even then sign a form to say if it proved we were not eligible to use the health service then I would pay. My children went to local schools and spoke the language - no interpreters were offered in school or any public service setting (not needed as we all learnt the language).
Living and working in Asia was no different - only that employer had to prove that no local applicant could do the job that was being filled by a foreigner.