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Bare with me?

187 replies

Veterinari · 20/06/2016 21:51

I know I'll be told that I am. I know I'm being pedantic, and that language evolves and that its only an Internet forum, not a literacy test.
I'm sure there'll be some proper pedants along to point out the eleventy million SPAG errors in my OP.

But in the off chance you're interested and genuinely didn't know, AIBU to point out that the phrase is 'bear with me' as in to bear a heavy load, not 'bare with me' as in let's get naked together.
Very very different connotations.

As you were

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Topseyt · 21/06/2016 00:13

Most of these are bugbears of mine.

Whenever I see "bare" with me I get a persistent image in my mind of a row of people who all just suddenly drop their pants and flash their bare arses. It is an image I just cannot banish. BlushGrin

Veterinari · 21/06/2016 07:29

I get the sane mental image Topseyt hence this thread I suppose.

I know there are lots of reasons people may be poor at spelling, but if at least some of that may be due to a lack of education then what's the harm in learning from MN? Like I said before I've learned loads on a whole range of topics from here. If you're not interested, you can just carry on as before, it's not obligatory.

No one is sneering, it's unrealistic to expect us all to have the same likes and dislikes, and the misuse of language can have amusing consequences. Plus if I'm making a regular mistake (like the use of pronounciation up thread) I'd much rather have it explained to me than blithely carry on in error. I think at least part of the problem with 'poor education' is a sneery attitude to actually engaging with and learning from others. It's much easier to be self-righteous about the lack of a skill which, lets face it, is important enough to affect your employment prospects.

Affect is when the object influence the subject e.g. Spelling affects employment
Effect is when you're focussing on the subject or outcome e.g the effect of poor spelling is fewer job opportunities.

I'm sure someone will be along soon to explain it better. I remember it because I got a detention at school for questioning my biology teacher when he got the two mixed up. I suspect being punished by a teacher for being interested enough in language that I didn't want my classmates to be taught a mistake in the run up to our exams, may have influenced my pedantry! Grin

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MerryMarigold · 21/06/2016 07:36

Peppermint Pasty, appallingly is a great word for the Y5 and 6 spelling list. Why was it left off? Angry At least it's more useful than harass.

MerryMarigold · 21/06/2016 07:38

Affect is a verb, a doing word. Spending time with my Mum affects me.

Effect is a noun, a thing. The effect of spending time with my Mum is that I feel stupid.

MangoMoon · 21/06/2016 07:39

Things like loose/lose irritate me beyond belief but I understand sometimes it's a quick typing error.

However, when I see someone repeatedly using it, it becomes clear that they're deliberately using 'loose' and I do get the urge to point it out (although I don't).

It does amuse me though when a poster will point out how highly educated they are in a bid to lord it over others for whatever reason, then cock up with the most basic errors.
It has happened quite a bit on the dreaded referendum threads.

Eastpoint · 21/06/2016 07:41

I could scarcely bear to open this thread, I thought it was going to be about some dreadful act of behaviour that needed to be justified.

blueskyinmarch · 21/06/2016 07:48

I also get grumpy with the misuse of advise and advice. You advise people who may or may not take your advice.

OneMillionScovilles · 21/06/2016 07:50

WeDoNotSow this Alot therapy may help...

murphys · 21/06/2016 07:54

I think that the UK is the only place that uses the term 'bear with me', not from UK but did live there a little while, and its was the first time I had heard it. I worked at a call centre, and it was a banned phrase to use Grin.

The spelling on a forum doesn't really bother me that much, as sometimes autocorrect changes the spelling, but when there are spelling errors in adverts or brochures, I really get the rage.

My current one is a sign I pass each morning, its a huge banner outside a music shop.... Piano's for sale...

I have threatened to sneak out in the night with a tub of white paint to correct it.

MauriceMoss · 21/06/2016 07:55

'Brought' instead of 'bought' really gets my goat.

Also 'should of' instead of 'should have'.

'Advise' instead of 'advice' (and vice versa).

Use of apostrophes for every word that ends in S Hmm.

I have no problem with regional colloquialisms (and it doesn't bother me as much in spoken English), but some things are just wrong.

Thanks, OP. This has been cathartic Grin.

WeDoNotSow · 21/06/2016 07:58

OneMillion Hahah, I love it!
That will now pop into my head the next time I see it!!

murphys · 21/06/2016 08:01

Oh, but wait..there is more Grin

I had to sign a contract for something, and in the terms and conditions it said 'general wear and tare excluded'. I refused to sign until they corrected it.

CuntTrollingRs · 21/06/2016 08:04

Mary had a little lamb
She also had a bear
I often saw her little lamb
But I never saw her bare

OneMillionScovilles · 21/06/2016 08:07

WeDoNotSow Then my work here is done Smile

Veterinari · 21/06/2016 08:09

Thanks Merry it's the verb/noun confusion - see I knew someone with a better grounding of language would be along soon Grin
You reminded me of a colleague at with who is constantly putting together blurb on delivering 'best practise' standards. Makes my teeth itch.

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ConcreteUnderpants · 21/06/2016 08:20

Misplaced apostrophe's are the thing's that get me.

Feel like going round with my giant marker pen and correcting all the sign's.

Its an omission, you idiot's. How hard can it be?

TrickyD · 21/06/2016 08:27

I love 'bare' for 'bear' . I always visualise the poster prancing around with nothing on.

In the spirit of the thread, I saw 'per say' the other day.

Foxyloxy1plus1 · 21/06/2016 08:56

Practice/practise
Licence/ license.
You have a driving licence which means you are licensed to drive.
Ect - even auto correct changes it. It etc, short for etcetera.

bumbleymummy · 21/06/2016 09:01

I think people struggle with 'loose' and 'lose' because of the way lose is pronounced. They hear 'loo' and think it's spelt 'loose'. That's my theory anyway!

HazelBite · 21/06/2016 09:06

Would of, could of, boils my piss!

I have seen the "bare" with me on here so often I wondered if I was wrong in believing it to be "bear"!

WhatALoadOfOldBollocks · 21/06/2016 09:10

YANBU. I know it's seen as dreadfully arrogant to correct someone's spelling or grammar, but surely it's better to do something right than do something wrong? How else is a person to know they've made a mistake unless it's pointed out? I once had a client tell me I should have used "fewer" instead of "less" in a particular context, and although at the time I thought he was a bit of a wanker I'm glad he did. The only problem is that now I know, I notice every time someone else doesn't!

"Ect instead of etc
*I feel like I'm missing something if anyone would care to help explain!"
It's ETC rather than ECT because it's an abreviation of the latin et cetera, meaning "and other things", or "and so forth".

"The pronunciation of "would have" as "would of" is mainly a matter of accent or of pronouncing the contraction "would've." Writing it "of" is, of course, a mistake, but it comes from the way people hear it and pronounce it."
Yes, and I think it also shows they don't understand that the apostrophe is substituting a letter or letters, in this case the "ha" part of "have". If they knew this they will realise that "of" is obviously incorrect.

IthoughtATMwasacashpoint · 21/06/2016 09:17

"This property is in a most sort after area", seen on Estate Agent details

TrickyD · 21/06/2016 09:20

My current one is a sign I pass each morning, its a huge banner outside a music shop.... Piano's for sale...

But perhaps the shop is doing very badly and they are trying to say only one piano is for sale ?

DontDead0penlnside · 21/06/2016 09:23

Somebody on a local FB site was selling a top. A "boob chube" in fact.

There's misspelling and there's making a word harder than it needs to be...

whyayepetal · 21/06/2016 09:38

A friend's little boy once had a notice on his bedroom door - "No girls aloud". His mum said she wasn't sure if he meant girls in general, or just the band. Grin