AIBU to think that Miss Great Britain didn't deserve to be stripped of her title

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Ok so I'm not one for beauty pageants or anything but the current Miss Great Britain (or should I now say former) is a contestant on ITV2 Love Island. She's had sex with a fellow contestant and now Miss Great Britain have stripped her of her title because of it.
I think it's an awful example of slut shaming in this day and age and a bad example to send to women everywhere that if they have sex they are punished.

I don't agree that she was right to have sex on tv but all the men are given a pat on the back while the women are shamed.
What are your thoughts?

I wonder if it would have made a difference have sex on TV with a long-term partner, as opposed to someone she only met a few hours previously?

Winner of misogynistic competition is stripped of her title because she acts in a way that doesn't conform to the sexist, outdated rules of said misogynist competition.

Saddened that beauty pageants are still a thing in the 21st century TBH.

There's nothing slut shaming about thinking having sex on national television is cheap, and that anyone who does should have more bloody self respect.

As an aside, surely only anyone with 0 intelligence watches shite like this anyway?

I'm interested, why do you think you would be sacked if you had sex on tv? As far as I'm aware none of the men on this programme will be sacked from their jobs.

Yes, being Miss GB is very different but I just don't understand why she is classed as a bad role model for doing something with her body that she wanted to do at the time.

I highly doubt Mr GB would be classed as a bad role model and the organisers wouldn't be under as much pressure from society if he had sex on tv.

I may have missed something, but I don't think there has been any confirmation that she broke any terms and conditions, rather that the Miss GB organisers decided it wasn't becoming of their title holder. I don't agree with pageants and as I said before am unsurprised by their response.

Ironically I think they have probably brought more attention to it by stripping her of the title.

I find it sad that most of the misogyny that surrounds this incident has come from women, particularly on the programme itself. I find it particularly frustrating that women continue to oppress each other in this way.

I'd be sacked for having sex on TV because I'm a MH professional who is a member of a professional body. As would any male member of my profession.

Plus I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't want to receive therapy from someone they've seen have sex on TV anyway.

I'm getting a massive nostalgia trip here! Back in the glory days I used to waste my working hours arguing with wankers on the Digital Spy forums about double standards towards Big Brother contestants.

Good times.

The term 'slut shaming' wasn't in common use and if I'm honest I don't use that term now either but still, I could make a full time job out of pointing out sexism and double standards to people who just will. Not. See. It.

The hilarious gymnastics they use to prove that "I'd say the same if it was a man" were comedy gold.

Almost all of the early adopter slut shamers were women /girls but it has ever been thus.

Yabu, she behaved disgracefully so she shouldn't be allowed to represent any title. It's pointless trying to say it wouldn't have happened to the guy because he doesn't hold any title. Is there anything respectable about having sex on tv?

I wouldn't let my children watch this show. I think it is derogatory to women (and men) - sitting around waiting to be picked. One of the lads was talking about his sex life and said that he had had sex all at once with 3 men and 1 woman. Everyone found it funny - I just hope it was consensual sex.

Wannabe there is clear slut shaming in the double standards demonstrated though, and in the way that those on and off the programme have responded afterwards. How many people are discussing whether the boy in this situation should have acted the same way?

Also, I watch the programme - I have a degree, a post-grad and a serious academic job so I would put my intellectual capacity above 0.

On the upside "sexy Zara who was sacked as Miss GB after saucy TV shenanigans" is more marketable for a generic "celebrity" career than yet another anonymous beauty contest winner. It's not how I would choose to earn my living but there's decent money in it if you manage it well and stay off drink and drugs.

I wouldn't let children watch this show.

I think that anyone who applies for Miss GB is a bit odd. (Judge me based on what I look like).

Anyone who chooses to have sex on TV (and you know what you're getting into with love island), is questionable.

If you've already let your children watch the show then rather than ban it, I'd sit and watch it with them and see if you can discuss the actions and attitudes with them. What's the point in banning it when they've already seen it, will probably carry on, and will have an extra layer of attractiveness because it has been banned.

And yes, it sounds like double standards to me.

If 'Mr GB' had signed a contract agreeing to present a wholesome public image and then fucked someone on national TV, I'm quite sure he would be in breach of contract too

How likely is it that a man would be expected to present a wholesome public image in a competition, though?

That's the double standard. Not that all people, regardless of sex, should have to abide by the terms and conditions of a competition that they enter, but that there are different kinds of terms and conditions for men's competitions than for women's.

There would be no slut-shaming for a man, because our society just does not slut-shame men in the way it does women. Double standard.

The Mr. Manchester contestant has a clause in the rules about that

The MM16 winner must carry out any MM16 related engagements in a professional manner, worthy of the title Mr Manchester, whilst respecting the ethos of the Mr England/Mr World contest. There must be nothing in the contestant's background that could bring the Mr England contest into disrepute.

The Miss Manchester rules only add that they musn't appear topless in publications.

There will be something in the contract about appropriate behaviour, not bringing the organisation or title into disrepute etc.

If she had gone on that show (which I don't watch but understand the concept) as a representative of John Lewis, or McDonalds, or BT or any other large organisation, they would have taken the same action.

WTF? There's a reality TV show where people have sex in front of the cameras and that's broadcast?? I'm feeling really old and out of the loop now.

Ooohh.... It's her body to do what she wants with, but if she's going to be touted as a positive role model for young girls, I suppose this behaviour doesn't fit. It's not the sex - more that it was on TV, public. I've never seen the program but it's been everywhere today. I imagine she'd have been stripped of the title if she'd been caught having sex in Oxford Circus or something too.

She doesn't seem to have found the contract terms too restricting up until now, there's lots of lingerie and bikini photos, she's been dressed in Ann summers dress up outfits to go out...

I think they've probably said it all when the spokesman said "Zara knows she's a role model and she knows we're trying to change the image of Ms Great Britain"

She has been boasting about being Ms Great Britain so much that she's trended on Twitter for three days and even celebs have been taking the pee.

I'm irritatingly on the fence here!

If I had casual sex on tv I would be struck off the medical register.

What's the difference ?

When did they strip Zara of this 'title' then? I thought they weren't condoning it but taking no action?

I don't see any 'Miss GB' or the like as role models because it's a looks-based assessment and I don't think any girl/woman should be assessed on that basis.

I think she's a vacuous, silly woman but not because she had sex, just because she holds herself up to such a ridiculous set of Miss GB values as some kind of positive thing. I think she's going to implode on Love Island as she's being 'set up' as some kind of love-failure.

I imagine (and hope) the show's organisers will not gleefully tell her of her loss of title whilst she's in the show; that would be very cruel.

ininshock, I imagine most of us, in professional roles, would face severe consequences of sex on tv... but we're not on TV, are we?

Lying Yesterday. Their statement suggests they've been filled in on what else is likely to be aired and they've changed their minds.

My DD watches this. Do they actually show full on shagging?! Or is it more like them having a snog and then the shot cuts to them lying in bed looking satisfied?

I'm a mental health nurse and a nurse I worked with years ago got sacked after appearing in quite a graphic documentary about swinging. She tried to appeal on the grounds that she had a right to a private life but was unsuccessful when it was pointed out that it was no longer private after it had been broadcast on BBC2. Not to mention the effect it would have had on the severely mentally ill patients she cared for who might have seen the programme.

My children are in such trouble

The 14 year old wanted to watch it, the 17 had already seen a few episodes and i specifically asked him was there any sex on screen

Untrustworthy little ratbags

They are going to hate mumsnet

Every time i try and talk to them about something important/meaningful they say "what have you been reading in mumsnet now"

Whether it's big brother or this programme it's pretty clear both want contestants who at the very least will strip off and at best have sex with multiple people on tv. Some people are just so dazzled by the idea of going on tv they'll do anything to get there.

I remember at least 15 years ago a girl I had worked with boasting to all and sundry how she was going to be on Ibiza Uncovered ,what night it was on etc. I eventually saw it ... So we have shots of her coming on to bloke, bloke telling her he has a gf and is leaving to go home that night , her hanging around , him taking her into a bathroom for literally 5 mins and her proudly announcing they've shagged, he then leaves for the airport, she's telling camera he has her phone number and she's sure they will be seeing each other ....shot of him getting asked "will you be seeing her again" his reply "God no " and throws her number away . Why would you want anyone to see that kind of encounter ? Nothing to do with morals ,just a meaningless encounter so apart from getting your face (or other bits) on tv why would you want to tell everyone to watch ?

I've being on tv and have got well paid for it but it's a job .......I doubt the girl I knew or this pagent person class themselves as sex workers but weren't both of them on tv purely because they were prepared to have sex on screen rather than for any other talent they have ? How are they not sex workers?

As for the mum wondering if she should let her daughters watch it .Maybe watch these shows with your daughters first and decide before they see it?
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